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CEE_TEE
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Sep 8, 2017
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Hello Everyone,
First thing to mention: If you participated in the launch of the Cavalli Tube Hybrid standalone version and you want this combo version with the Grace Design Standard DAC, you may contact customer service to upgrade. (You can cancel your previous transaction if you are switching to the purchase of this version. To do so, click in the upper right-hand corner on your profile icon to access the drop down menu. Select “Transactions” from the menu, find the CTH order and click on the “CONTACT SUPPORT” link to submit your request. Please note that the combo unit launch does not guarantee serial numbers below 550.)
EDIT 9/11/2017: If you contacted customer service to upgrade from CTH, we will be reaching out to you even if you received a reply over the weekend that you could not cancel (things were not fully set up for the upgrade but many of you were helped).
About this collaboration…
I came to work at Massdrop as a customer and a fan of custom products. Massdrop brings audiophile community desires directly to partners in order to make customized versions of our favorite products.
The next exciting step in the evolution of the audiophile custom product program was to commission a new design and enable scaled-up production of a favorite boutique designer such as Alex Cavalli. Massdrop’s new production & supply chain makes much higher volumes possible and higher volume allows for lower pricing.
Today’s introduction of the Cavalli Tube Hybrid, in combination with the Grace Design Standard DAC, adds the new ability to bring together our best partners and create novel product combos that wouldn't normally be possible.
This DAC/amp combo is the culmination of Alex Cavalli's amplifier design capability, Grace Design's DAC engineering capability, the community's desired product features, plus Massdrop's hub of partnership & manufacturing capability- resulting in a new, accessible, high-performance product.
Sep 8, 2017
Dwar
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Sep 8, 2017
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The specs for the DAC show a micro USB input and the specs for the amp show an RCA input; can the DAC be bypassed?
Sep 8, 2017
CEE_TEE
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Sep 8, 2017
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Hi Dwar, Yes, there is a button on the front of the CTH+SDAC combo for input selection. If pushed in, amp will use the internal SDAC. If not depressed, will take external RCA input to the amp.
Sep 8, 2017
Elsid
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Sep 9, 2017
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Hi, I believe the dac chip ak4452 (velvet sound) has several options that can be utilized, depending on the build and the preference of the designer. One of which are the filters. Cavallis amps have been described as warm, while maintaing detail. Do you know if the filter choice utilized will maintan that signature? Also, is there the ability to switch the filters on the chip? I also read that these chips have the ability to daisy chain? I think I saw another amp/dac using a dual Akm chip for balance. I'm not very knowledgeable of the electronics, so I'm just trying to understand what I have read. If I remember correctly, the amp has a variable gain. Is this auto or are there switches? I do wish it had a pre-amp, but this looks like a very nice piece. Will it have another long wait time? Thanks!
Sep 9, 2017
OrangePegasus
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Sep 9, 2017
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It looks like we lose one output from the SDAC compared to buying these separately. Can you confirm? If so, would you consider adding balanced or unbalanced fixed line-level outputs as well?
Sep 9, 2017
Levvy
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Sep 9, 2017
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@CEE_TEE What are the chances of MD pulling another stunt like this in the future but with an upgraded DAC section that supports 384khz/DSD? I'd be pissed if that happens when we already received our unit with no chance to upgrade except through a new purchase. Why not just make the chassis modular in the sense that whenever there is an upgrade, we can just slot/swap in the upgraded/separate chip board?
Sep 9, 2017
tessierpg
Sep 9, 2017
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In fact, do I understand that there is no line output on this unit? We cannot output the included SDAC to another receiver or amp? Strictly headphone outputs (balanced and 1/4 regular)? In comparison, the standalone SDAC has in fact 2 line outputs: one RCA set and one 3.5mm... This is another reason to prefer separate components (standalone SDAC and standalone O2 or CTH amp) rather than this all in one design. This design may or may not suit your needs compared to the standalone solution, depending on your usage.
Sep 9, 2017
OrangePegasus
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Sep 10, 2017
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Yes, I was looking at the SDAC because of the two always-on line outs, but this would have been great to keep the total number of boxes on my desk lower. To be fair I've only ever found pro-audio solutions to fit my needs (balanced line outs, separate volume pots for line out and headphone out, none of that auto-switching on headphone plug-in stuff) at a price level I can afford.
Sep 10, 2017
songmic
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Sep 11, 2017
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I did exactly what you said and contacted customer support, but I got a reply saying neither an upgrade nor cancellation is possible. Maybe they weren't informed of this?
Could you please look into this matter and let us know by today, before the CTH + SDAC drop goes live tomorrow?
Sep 11, 2017
CEE_TEE
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Sep 11, 2017
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Hey Songmic, Sorry about this. The word may not have reached everyone and we will honor upgrades. I'll look into tomorrow for sure!
Sep 11, 2017
Chaturanga
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Sep 11, 2017
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So when we use this device as just an AMP, will the AMP perform completely same as Massdrop x Cavalli CTH Amp or that combo design can cause some distortion or something negative?
Sep 11, 2017
Feanorean
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Sep 11, 2017
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Why not just announce this at the same time as the CTH standalone and also include the SDAC as a bundled standalone option. Massdrop obviously knew they were going to release this product soon after the original drop. This type of marketing really annoys me...
Sep 11, 2017
kar211psu
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Sep 11, 2017
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Any chance the Astell & Kern AK240 Blue Note DAP will drop again soon? Really interested in that and just found Massdrop a month to late.
Sep 11, 2017
greatex
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Sep 11, 2017
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They now announced the cavali liquid carbon x version, they should really announce the series at the same time
Sep 11, 2017
beekay
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Sep 12, 2017
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Hi. Any chance I can order the stand alone amp without DAC please?
Sep 12, 2017
Jonknowsnothing
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Sep 12, 2017
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Same here , Grace's dac is not really a buildin dac, it's a separated piece and I hate the name , shes broken my heart!
Sep 12, 2017
indi_guy
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Sep 12, 2017
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Piece of advice(if I may):
Since you guys have now collaborations that take 6 months of production. Instead of dispatching all orders at same date why not tier it? Like first 500 will get it shipped 2 months later and the next 500 will have to wait 2 more. I think will be convenient for all.
Sep 12, 2017
donunus
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Sep 12, 2017
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The pic doesn't show any USB output. I take it this is not an actual picture of the product?
Sep 12, 2017
d3sign
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Sep 12, 2017
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I suggest you take a look at picture 6 out of 11. Above the top blue arrow of the bottom bunch you can see the MicroUSB input. and I couldn´t find any sign of advertising USB output in the description.
Sep 12, 2017
donunus
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Sep 12, 2017
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Alright, Thanks
Sep 12, 2017
kidau
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Sep 16, 2017
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@CEE_TEE Is it still possible to opt for a CTH amp only from this drop? Thanks!
Sep 16, 2017
CEE_TEE
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Sep 18, 2017
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EDIT: DAC & Amp Family UPDATE 9/18/2017: https://www.massdrop.com/talk/2363/audiophile-custom-products-dac-amp-update-9-18-2017 Some good news…we are working to add the 3.5mm output to the SDAC in the CTH+SDAC. The 3.5mm output will be next to the microUSB input jack. You may use a 3.5mm to RCA cable for output. So, there is no pass-through on the CTH+SDAC but you can now get a line-out from the SDAC.
Sep 18, 2017
Bogge
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Sep 19, 2017
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Will the DAC Line out work with the rest of amp turned off? Reason not to use the tube unnessecerally If I only want to use the SDAC.
Sep 19, 2017
CEE_TEE
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Sep 19, 2017
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Yes.
Sep 19, 2017
Heex
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Sep 28, 2017
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Any way to hop on the standalone CTH or do we have to wait for the next drop?
Sep 28, 2017
CEE_TEE
3410
Oct 23, 2017
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Hi @kidau & @Heex, Sorry...at this time we are not re-opening the standalone CTH drop. But thank you for asking!
Oct 23, 2017
rastus
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Nov 14, 2018
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Can the CTH work with the additional filament current draw of an E80CC tube?
Nov 14, 2018
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