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glennac
1363
Jan 29, 2019
Jonas & Mike, forgive me for beating this dead horse, however Massdrop presented a concept in the survey back in Sept, but delivered something different than what the survey implied would be the result.
  • Path is a custom-style EDC Flashlight made from copper or brass which can utilize both 18650 and CR123 batteries.…In the larger configuration, it is powered by an 18650 or two CR123 batteries. In the short configuration, it is powered by one CR123.
  • The Path will be offered in four surface treatments. Tell us what you think by dragging them into the appropriate areas. (I’d Buy It / It’s Cool Buy I Wouldn’t Buy It / Undesirable) Note: Each of the “areas” could accept multiple entries. 
  • Would you buy multiple Paths to mix and match materials/surface treatments? (Yes / No) [What was the point of that question if you weren’t going to offer multiple “surface treatments”?]
You can see all of the cries for 18650 support in the comments here. Massdrop lead us to believe this would be a given. It wasn’t.  “The Path will be offered in four surface treatments.” It was never assumed that this was a lottery for the most popular design. We were asked to sort favorite to least favorite. Ok, knurled was the most popular if you look at it as a single-winner survey. But that’s not what this was supposed to be. Just because some rated knurled as their most desirable doesn’t mean that they wanted all of the other options to disappear (Note that “I’d Buy It” could accept multiple entries. That some patterns landed 2nd doesn’t mean we weren’t interested in them.) You switched a survey asking which patterns we would like to pair with knurled to a ‘which is most popular’ survey and that’s not what participants were saying when they sorted the textures as they did. Of course, back then, the survey was about a future product. You obviously had prototypes in hand. Naturally you want it to be easy and less expensive to manufacture. And, it happens, plans change. Ok, we get all of that. But, you can also understand where we are coming from when we express disappointment that we were made to expect one thing, but got less than what was initially described.
jag-engr
13
Mar 26, 2020
glennacI'm a relatively recent convert to 18650 cells, and I agree that they are awesome! They provide the most capacity at a voltage close to the LED's voltage, so there is minimal buck / boost waste. Since the flashlight can accept an RCR, have you considered trying an unusual size like 16650 or 17650? They have a little less capacity than an 18650, but they should blow the other manufacturer-recommended options out of the water.
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