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bYtock
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I have a short comment on the comfort of these headphones. I was lucky enough to get these the first time they dropped, and when I received mine I couldn't wear them for more than a few minutes because the clamp was so unbearable. I would get headaches from the pressure on my head in no time flat. Fast forward a few months and now they are almost as comfortable as my AKG k712pro. I can wear them all night with zero fatigue, either from the sound signature or the comfort. If you get them and they're too tight, just try to tough it out, they will stretch. If you have a mannequin head, that could help speed up the process. It's worth it!
Jun 27, 2017
LucQc
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I have experience almost the same thing (e.g. the issue was not up to the point it was unbearable after less than 10 minutes) with Focal Listen. Months later they were better, and now I'm happy I have not returned it.
Jun 27, 2017
Vigrith
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MahmoudK
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Instead of toughing it out, you can break them in, for example you can place several books that have about the same length from one of your ears to the other and place the headphone on top, the books will do the job for few days when you are not wearing them.
Jun 27, 2017
bYtock
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I'd recommend not applying unnatural force to them like the man does in that video. Something closer to what @MahmoudK suggests is probably safer and will give more consistent results. Still good to have that video as a reference, though!
Jun 27, 2017
Vigrith
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I didn't actually watch the video before posting, I couldn't find the original HD650 one I watched back in the day - I did almost the exact same thing he does there though to both my 12 year old 650s way back then and my 6XX from the 1st round and they're perfectly fine. I honestly don't think it's dangerous as long as you're careful, I know tons of people who've done it and none have had problems.
This alongside the video's 3k views without dislikes, makes me fairly confident in that this works just fine and isn't risky at all.
Jun 27, 2017
Specte
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Yeah that was sketchy. I was just waiting to hear the snap.
Jun 27, 2017
Vigrith
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Do you own 650s? Have you tried it? It's not even remotely sketchy, from just watching the video I can see why you might potentially think that but those bands are VERY durable, they're not brittle or anything, it's not like you're stretching a twig that'll crack at any moment. I don't understand where that concern is coming from at all.
Jun 27, 2017
LucQc
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« I don't understand where that concern is coming from at all. »
Breaking them in like he wrote will do it evenly e.g. same bend on each side. Doing it like in the video might not achieve the same result. It's up to you if it is a big deal...
Jun 27, 2017
Vigrith
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Agreed, if you rush it then you might not break them in evenly but having to wait several months to achieve the same (98%~ the same or something if you're careful) result you get after 5 minutes of stretching then... As you said, up to you if that's a big deal. I'd rather have it done right away and not suffer for months on end until they're comfortable even if that means one side is slightly (5%) looser than the other.
If you're not happy with the result you can always tweak it further until you are. It's not hard.
Jun 27, 2017
LucQc
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Let the books suffer for you. 8;-)
Jun 27, 2017
Vigrith
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As will the pads - they'll get much more worn in that way as you'll be effectively wearing the headphones 24/7. That's not something I'd wanna do personally, nothing worse than flat pads but up to you.
Not to mention the books best be the exact size/shape of your head else the headband will stretch along with it and potentially cause issues.
Jun 27, 2017
LucQc
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I never said I would do it that way by the way. Surf in headphone forums and you'll find there are other ways. For my part I usually deal with suffering like I did with Listens...
Jun 27, 2017
MahmoudK
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Jun 27, 2017
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You won't use the books method for months, mostly a week to make it more comfortable then you wear them and your head will do the rest. the pads wont be affected significantly by then. you can have the books width less than your head's if you can't have the exact same width, that way the band will be less tighter but not too loose. some extremists get a mannequin head for the breaking in to maintain the realistic head shape and maintain the pressure points on the pads... I won't go that far myself.
Jun 27, 2017
Darkphoenix
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If you dont have a mannequin a couple of giant text books work as well
Jun 27, 2017
adi518
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I recommend against that. So unnecessary with the 6XX.
Jun 27, 2017
Vigrith
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So just because your head size is below average you recommend against stretching the bands? Unnecessary for you does not mean it is unnecessary for every single other person ever (or the ones reading this thread).
You can say it was not needed for you but with the thousands of people that DO have that issue with them out of the box (not just the 650s, the 6XX specifically) is it really worth it to recommend against a fix that blatantly works and has no downsides so long as people don't apply Hulk levels of force to it?
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bYtock
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Dude chill out! We're just talking about comfort break in, no need to get so defensive! You've contributed valuable information to the conversation. Keep it friendly =3
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Vigrith
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I don't know how to respond to this, really. That's just the way I talk, I wasn't abrasive or defensive in the slightest, "talking" is just another way to describe a discussion which is what I'm having, why would you ever interpret that as aggressive?
There's no need to be "haha good points buddy pal! I'm glad we're talking it out haha! Nice bro! I love breaking in headphones!". Different strokes, different folks. Just because I feel like continuing the discussion doesn't mean I feel I haven't contributed enough or that I need to "chill out", isn't this the exact function of forums such at this one? You know, the whole replying to each other thing?
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bYtock
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Vigrith
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That sure is a compelling argument after you implied I was mad. Passive aggressiveness is definitely warranted after you scolded me for sounding stern.
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bYtock
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I'm not arguing. You got your thoughts out there and so did I, I already said everything I wanted to say.
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