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I'm going to stop on clicking the discussion page here. I honestly expect people to talk about the headphones itself and compare it to something else, but all I've been seeing lately is people complaining about the cost, shipping, or the shipping date. Please, go talk to Massdrop customer service if you have a problem with this drop or ask them at least to get their consent.
the hd650 is an ancient pair of headphones, there's countless comparisons and discussions all over the internet. out of all the high quality sources out there, you decided you'd consult the discussion page? you shouldn't even have tried in the first place.
oh, btw, you're complaining too.
Give some room for new people in our community who are interested in audiophile hobbies that wants to discuss with other people who has more knowledge and experience with it.
I don't know why you want to start an argument with me. I'm complaining exactly what? That I'm bothered that people aren't properly discussing here? That I'm asking people to go ask customer service if they need help? Guess what, it doesn't hurt for me to try to asking people to use the customer service instead of seeing a spam of people complaining about the cost, shipping, or the shipping date. Where do you think these types discussion would lead to then? More complaining about the same subject? IT doesn't lead anywhere. I'm sure Massdrop already knows and hears most of our feelings about this drop already.
IT'S TIME TO STOP
;____; pot calling kettle black, preaching to the choir, stating the obvious.
I'm just trying to help others you know? Cause I'm trying to understand other peoples point who agrees with you. A solid point was made by you that there's a lot of reviews about this product, but that wasn't my point and when I read your point of the argument... all I read was - "You can do your own research instead of asking people, so let us complain more about the same thing that has been repetitively said here on the discussion page."
Not a strong statement there...
it's not a strong statement because you made it up, loosely basing it on mine. your erroneous interpretation of my words does not represent my opinion. the average joe would very likely do research before dropping $250 on anything, people aren't stupid. there are much better places to help others learn more about a popular, renowned pair of headphones than this fragmented "community" based out of a comment section on a product page, where you can be much more productive. it's like trying to convert ISIS fighters in the middle of contested territory, a fundamentally fruitless task.
good luck performing the noble deed of helping anonymous strangers on massdrop, despite evident futility.
p.s. i thought you were going to stop browsing the discussion page?
WHY ARE YOU BEING SO SALTY AND CAN'T KEEP IT MUTUAL WITH YOUR COMEBACKS, I'M SORRY OK? MY LORD iGrenade, SPARE MY LIFE PLEASE!!! I didn't mean to offend people's feeling and screw me for trying to help few people.
I UNDERSTAND this is the internet, but I just can't stand the remarks that you're making. First you say I'm complaining then you ask me why I'm looking at the discussion page.
You know damn well why I left my comment from the first place and why i'm here in the discussion page. Quit bring a troll and share some love with me.
I appreciate your hospitality. You can carry on with the support of complaints also.
People, don't get angry just because you can't agree on something, just because you can't accept the truth, just because someone disagrees with your views. I left my point of view and people are just ready to shit on me. Calm down lmfao
you're the one who said you were going to stop clicking on the discussion page, just to come back again and again.
Yea cause im talking to you directly? Derp durp?
I disagree. We do not need the discussions flooded with questions such as "Is this headphone better than X?" when simply searching on Google "HD 650 vs X" will give you many results. You also shouldn't be asking Massdrop's costumer service questions like "When will these be shipped?" since, first it's likely that it has already been asked/answered on the discussion page, and second because now they have to answer hundreds of emails of people who are unable to search themselves.
Do you behave like that in not virtual life?
I'm new here and just started to gain interest in hifi audio equipment. My friend recommended me this site and told me to check out this headphone (I literally made my account couple minutes ago). I wanted to ask some questions then realized that most people are saying the same thing just like KITTY just mentioned.
I mean... I guess I can do my research but I guess i'll be bashed on in this community if I don't complain like the rest of the others? Dang, I guess I'll use the customer service as my discussion page instead cause I'm afraid that I might hurt someone's feeling just cause I want to share my point of view about others. According to iGrenade, I guess I can't even ask any questions? Let's all just COMPLAIN!
There are some not too smart asses like me that might answer or at least try to. Feel free to ask if you don't mind to deal with spoiled brats.
What kind of a dummy would ask "when this would be shipped" when it says right there, unless they're new here. I was assuming people would ask something like, "Why does it take that long to ship?" instead. Do I go to hell for asking someone that has the headphone to share their experience with it to see if they like it or not? Reading reviews and talking to an owner directly is a different experience. C'mon, don't tell me that hundreds of questions are answered when there are people still complaining about the price and the shipping. A direct conversation is different. People should be welcomed to ask anyone and discuss it. But, I do agree with you that it's not flooded.
Sorry, some people here are [moderated]
Could you explain me how you're doing searches inside a discussion?
or anyone else who has the answer...
You want me to take a screen shot of my previous conversations with other Massdrop members/owners that has the item that I've been debating myself if I should purchase it? I can't ask for their personal experience with the item? What they like? What they dislike? Isn't that a personal research? @I_Need_Money
??? No. You do not understand what I mean't. 8:-((((( *sigh* We can switch in French Language. In this language I am more proficient.
I said I'd answer to RaughOutRoud questions. Go in my profile and look in my Posts History. You're going to see I am answering. Can we agree to move on? I'd be happy to answer up to the limit of my knowledge.
Sorry, I didn't mean to reply to you. I was talking to someone else. It was a mistake haha.
Do you want me to tell you where I take my information?
I'll be happy to, but I'm sure RaughOutRoud might need it more than I do. I already have HD6XX and done my research hehe. Just share it, might help some people out there.
Ok. I first learned stuff on headphones in forums or blogs searching for mods that some were doing to headphones. You got to take some things on forums with a grain of salt because there is stuff posted which is pure BS PR. Also when you know who is sponsoring you might find out why there is some bias. If you take your information from many sources you'll find out soon that most folks agree on some good-quality-price headphones for someone starting in HeadFi.
If you have a local HiFi store I strongly suggest you go there and go upfront with the staff and tell them you're newbie in HiFi or HeadFi. We all started with affordable amps, speakers, turntables, CD players and now some of us are buying too expensive stuff. Don't be afraid to ask them questions. If they're snubbing you, it's probably better to go somewhere else.
I really appreciate reading stuff published by guy like NwAvGuy, they're giving a lot of their time for free sharing their knowledge.
I am subscribing to a magazine who have not a lot of ads and have never been afraid to publish a bad review when the manufacturer was going in the wrong direction, even if the manufacturer was buying ads in the magazine.
here comes the ad hominems
doesn't matter, it's still the public discussion page. derp durp hypocrisy at its finest.
you're being quite defensive for someone that claims to be able to accept differences in opinion, or "the truth." pot calling kettle black again calm down lmfao
everyone bow down to the almighty savior of the massdrop community, peace be upon him.
my words were directed at KITTY and KITTY only. if you'd read carefully you'd see i was simply pointing out the futility of her/his supposed virtuous act. i never complained about the price of this drop, the late delivery, and so forth. but do go ahead and attack the strawman.
oh no, my feelings are hurt because you decided to call me names then "ignore" me. lmao sounds like you're the truly spoiled brat who cannot take his own medicine. when you feel the need to announce you've blocked someone on the internet, it strongly suggests you think highly of yourself and think others care about what you do. sad
what do you think i will lose from your report? nothing of value. such strong reactions from you, blocking and reporting. looks like i've summed up your mindset pretty good and you're clearly upset about that. you're not an innocent party, you reap what you sow. have fun indeed.
also lol @ saying i'm on your ignored list yet you continue to reply. yet another liar.
Good nite my friend. Keep bullying your way in life.
lmao, still pretending to be an innocent victim.
like the great philosopher michael jackson one said: if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change.
also once again, on your "ignored list" yet you continue to reply lmao.
keep breathing. 8;-) good boy, you're listening.
loool still replying, "ignored list" my butt.
lmfao nah, i've got work tomorrow. clearly i've said enough for you to dedicate such effort just for me, and that's before taking into account your decision to come back and reply after pretending to have put me on your "ignore list." good "nite" my friend, may you find peace having the last word, as a true spoiled brat bully would, a bonafide hypocrite projecting endlessly.
"Je préfère le méchant à l'imbécile, parce que l'imbécile ne se repose jamais." [ Alexandre Dumas fils ]
Do you think you have the right to use my picture this way?
I understand (I never said u were complaining by the way), but does KITTY's virtuous act bother you so much? What's wrong with telling people to use the customer service? Why do you think it's ok for people to complain? KITTY meant no ill means to anybody... KITTY can't forcefully remove people from the discussion page, obviously. All KITTY did was ask and shared his/hers opinion...You need to calm down or just ignore rather than arguing someone over the internet. I'm trying to understand what's triggering you. Just like you said, it's a public page. I believe that KITTY can also contribute to the community. Gotta say, Massdrop is quite toxic. It's like reading comments on FB or Youtube haha.
Grow up... Look, I'm sorry ok? Leave people alone and we both made our statement. No reason to argue no further.
Accepting different opinions and accepting people complaining non stop seems two different things... I have nothing to do with my life so I was reading this discussion and I'm curious... You said "yet another liar"... are you referring to KITTY coming to the discussion page orrrrrr talking (responding) to you directly? Lol?
« I'm trying to understand what's triggering you »
Good luck. Misusing a "," triggered him so much that he taught me a lesson while not using "I" in his amazing lesson, they taught me that at Primary School. Asking him if he's behaving like he's doing here in the not virtual world was enough he ended up thinking that using my picture and making fun of my appearance was the thing to do. The guy threw shit on those anonymous here, and wrote I am hypocrite while actually I was using my picture and my First Name. Can he claim the same? With all his privacy settings on that are helping him hide what he's doing. If you really want to see what is triggering him big time, you should see him when he is receiving a defective unit from Massdrop. We all wasted too much time with this friendly massdroper!
Hello Kitty, I am disappointed that the price went up too, but I still really want to get these so bad, but there going to put a dent into my vacation budget if I get them. Very bad timing for this drop, but If I'm not mistaken, this is going to be your 2nd set, that being said, you personally must really love these, so should I go ahead and get them? I think I know your answer. Time is running out, thx PP.
First, I don't want to ruin your vacation! But, yes I would definitely recommend it to you. Not only that these are for accurate listening, but if you're also a gamer or someone that loves watching movies... you will realize how clean/clear the sounds are. The separation of each sound is very noticeable. Since it's open-back, you can also feel the sound stage. You'll experience the sound all around you.
I'm not sure you understand the meaning of preaching to the choir
I surely didn't want to miss the boat this time around, so I had to definitely commit after the good folks at Massdrop increased the number of units and gave the whole community the original drop price of $199. Funny how it all ended up in the end, and thanks for your personal endorsement and recommendation, PP.
I've checked your drop before and I was happy that you joined ;)
Have a safe trip
Going to LV, sure could have lost $200 quickly, So I might as well treat myself to something nice for the holidays. Don't know what all the fuss was all about, but I'm glad I followed you. You're the one that hinted that these were coming back soon in the first place.