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Just joined the drop on these , figured I'll try 'em first instead of the more expensive Oppo PM 1 or 3 or the PSB m4u 1/2 .
I suppose these are a good deal for $199 shipped
have to be better than the over hyped (Monster) Beats crap that's out there.
the PSB M4Us and Oppo PM3 exist to do something completely different from the HD650. Not be heard by the room, sound decent from a phone, be 'fashionable' etc.