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Awesome headphones! I am not able to compare them with the original or actual 650s, but I will say I am a headphone snob when it comes to sound accuracy and these are the best in their price range. Because they are open, the soundstage is incredible, and I don’t know how to describe it except I perceive the ‘height’ of the mix like monitors. Even the reproduction of frequencies is very accurate, and I’m able to nail mixes better than any other headphones I have owned. I use them directly out of my universal audio Apollo 8 interface or straight off my iphone/MacBook Pro (with no dac/amp!! BLASPHEMY) and very happy. Buy them now!