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This is my second pair of HD650's. The first pair, which I bought in 2007 at a local stereo shop for $450, still works and fits fine (I replaced the ear pads last year.) I've always thought they were well worth the expense, so had to jump at the chance to buy a second pair for $200. I also have a pair of HD580's that I bought around 2000 and a pair of HDR 160's. I guess it's Sennheiser all the way for me!