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rdpostem
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Apr 25, 2018
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Just got in on this drop. Me: I enjoy my Grados Prestige SR80i (unmodded); using my laptop/cell phone and flac files as source. Looking for improved sound stage width and depth, and beginning the adventure to find magical mids that come with tubes.
Reading here and there; my understanding is the HD6XX will deliver a wider and deeper soundstage, and if pushed by the right tube amp will deliver the magic I am looking for.
AMP: Was thinking DV336SE, then moved on to the LF339.
Will these cans deliver, or should I be looking for something different?
Apr 25, 2018
loadexfa
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Apr 25, 2018
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I have never tried Grados and the 6XX isn't known for a huge sound stage (that is more the HD-800/800S/820). I wouldn't say the sound stage is bad and these headphones are my favorite overall. Until I have money for the 800S.
I can say that the HD-6XX pairs REALLY well with the LF 339. I also like Schiit multibit dacs with the HD-6XX.
Apr 25, 2018
Jackula
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Apr 25, 2018
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If you want the largest soundstage with the HD6XX, you need to look for a transformer coupled amp, not an OTL amp like the DV or LF. The SS amp with the widest soundstage < $1k is the Heron5, which goes on sale from time to time on MD, tonally it's a much better match with the HD800's than with HD6XX though. DACs with a tube output stage also helps.
Like @loadexfa said, HD800 will give you a larger soundstage. They've got a really wide soundstage although the depth is about the same as the HD6XX. But because the soundstage is so wide, the depth is disproportionate and gives the impression of being much more shallow. In comparison, the soundstage of the HD6XX is much more natural.
Apr 25, 2018
Blightor
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Apr 26, 2018
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I have heard that the schiit jotunheim is a great match for the HD6XX, being especially good in the midrange. Thoughts?
Apr 26, 2018
Jackula
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Apr 26, 2018
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The Jot is quite forward sounding, whether that's great for you is completely subjective. Tonally it makes the HD6XX more balanced and it gains some speed, although the highs can be a bit fatiguing because these headphones already have quite sharp highs. I feel they are a better match for HD600's since their treble is less pointy. Soundstage on the Jot is quite poor compared to most tube amps. If you were thinking about grabbing a HD800/S or Massdrop's Focal Elex later on, I wouldn't recommend the Jot at all as the highs will be too much for most people to enjoy. Diehard fans will tell you I'm wrong.
Apr 26, 2018
Blightor
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Apr 27, 2018
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Thanks for the response. Hmm. I owned a HD600 around 20 years ago (which I lost during a move around 10 years ago), and after the purchase of the 6XX I don't plan on buying more higher end cans - My aim is to use the headset as a general use one on my PC (Like I did with the 600's, even though my older (Pentium era) PC's struggled to drive them), just this time around I want to ensure I get a good but affordable set-up with an amp and a DAC. Its worth mentioning that my reasons are not entirely audiophile in nature, as I want the open backs to reduce pressure on my eardrums and have a cooler environment as I've been getting a few ear infections and the like, but that said I dont want to just be a penny miser, so if there are other options that are say 20% more cost than the Jot, but a really nice improvement in quality, then I am willing to take that. I'm not poor, but also not wanting to spend a fortune on a tiny improvement.
Apr 27, 2018
Jackula
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Apr 27, 2018
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I had a thought about it and I reckon you'll be looking at the Woo WA7d at that price point. It's $649 when it gets listed on Massdrop, or a $150 more on their official website, they're an American company too. It will be a better match for these headphones, as well as a wider variety of headphones. There is an integrated DAC in the WA7 and its a huge improvement over the Jot one. The amp stage is transformer coupled, which sounds more refined than the Jot and the soundstage is much larger, and would let you tube roll to get the sound you prefer. Jot would still be faster, not that the WA7 is slow but tubes never have the same speed.
Apr 27, 2018
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