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Are these the same thing as the HD600's? Or HD650's?
they are identical to the HD650
How do they compare to the HD600s?
More sound stage, more low end, less forward mids, and more rolled off highs.
As an owner of both, I enjoy the 6XX much much more, it is my all time favorite headphone. Compared to the HD600, it is more laidback, it has less grain, it is more dynamic, has more resolution and overall a more natural sounding headphone. The HD600 is brighter and slightly more revealing in the upper midrange, and it has a fatter bass than the HD6XX, while the latter has much better bass control. The HD600 do run better on entry to mid-range gear, while the HD6XX/650 scales much better with higher end gear.