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Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 6XX Headphones
Ospreybravo25
16
Dec 23, 2019
I think Massdrop needs to be a bit more careful with their mailers. Yes I get it your goal is to get someone to see the email and then purchase the headphone without doing any further research but I have to say it's disingenuous to have people saying things such as, "This is the all-in-one, it-doesn't-matter-who-you-are, it-doesn't-matter-what-you-listen-to, it-doesn't-matter-if-you-own-a-dac/amp, buy-this-headphone headphone" because it's just not true. This headphone is purported to be difficult to drive and known for liking a proper amp in order to get the most out of it. It's not known for having great bass and it's detail is there but not on the level of the detail gods such as Argons or DT 1990 Pro's. The 6xx is known for lacking sound stage because Sennheiser has a signature and that's an open and intimate headphone experience that excels at reproducing singers voices. I love my Massdrop THX00 PH's and I like what massdrop puts out but I would prefer not seeing you guys overhype a product like you are with the 6XX. I don't deny it's most likely a fantastic headphone and I look forward to getting my hands on one (it would be nice if next time you're offering pads you don't cut people off as soon as you decide it's hurting your wallet or make it clear that it's a limited time offer). But if you hype the living daylights out of something and then someone buys it without doing research there's a chance they could be let down and that will result in reviews that aren't a faithful representation of what the headphone delivers. A great example is I was looking at a monitor recently and a guy knocked off 3 stars because the company had hyped up the product and then pulled back when they couldn't deliver on certain feature (but in the case of the 6XX people will expect it to behave a certain way and might be irked when say it doesn't have the amount of bass they might want).
Evshrug
3772
Community
Dec 26, 2019
Ospreybravo25I get you. I agree, this 300 Ω (at 1kHz, even higher resistance in the bass) definitely needs a better Amp than what comes built in to smartphones and what most people are starting the hobby with. The HD 650 originally sold for $500, and that’s 20 years of currency inflation ago, and people don’t respect that they should also budget for a good amp in order to not limit the HD 6XX’s capabilities.
That said, there’s a reason this headphone is a classic. Under ideal amplification, the HD 650 almost matches the Harmon target frequency response curve (and was made before Harmon released that report). It represents almost the entire audible frequency range equally for most ears (ear shape and canal size matter, but most ears are pretty close). Yes, it’s a dynamic driver, but it’s pretty reference quality.
What I tell most new-owners (when I find them) is to consider them to be home Headphones with the larger 1/4” (6.5mm) headphone plug, and try plugging them into a home theater receiver or integrated amp at home/family’s house instead of a smartphone or $50 amp. That should help bring more of the capabilities of the headphone out. Saving up for a Schiit Magni 3 or a Massdrop/Cavalli Liquid Carbon X (Did you see the sale price on that right now?!? $160!!!) would be a good choice, or many other great options at or above $100. If they won’t invest in that, they probably would be better off with the easier to drive HD 58X Jubilee, TH-X00, or 32 Ω variant of DT1990.
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