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Has anyone had the Steelseries Artic Pro and GameDAC and transitioned to these? What did you think? The volume on the SteelSeries is quiet and I don’t get a great bass oompf/response with them. Sennheiser has great audio, too, but I’m thinking the Sennheiser will pack more punch. If I buy these for $220, I don’t want to buy a DAC/AMP cause they’re expensive, unless there’s a cheap one ($20). Lol. I want a darn good Sennheiser product. Recommendations from
the ones on Drop? The PC37X would be good for gaming, cause it has a mic. But I doubt the sound quality will be as good. As far as open or closed back goes, I don’t think I’d mind either. Saw the Jubilee too but don’t know much about them and how they’d compare.
Can’t speak to the Arctis as I owned the Arctis 7’s. As for the DAC/AMP issue. I know it’s not in your $20 budget but if you can pony up $99, Schiit has the Fulla which is perfect for gaming and is a DAC/AMP combo in one convenient device.
Thanks, man! Did you find this to be a big upgrade from the Arctis 7? I really want a pair of these, I think the biggest loss will be that the bass isn’t as rich and thumpy on these. Agreed? I’ve actually been looking at that combo which looks awesome; but some people said that specific one doesn’t release the full potential of the headset because of its power limitation versus what the headset needs. Thanks!
The Fulla can absolutely handle the HD6XX’s just fine. We’re talking gaming of course which is what the Fulla aims at. If you’re trying to dip into audiophile territory and upgrading your sound for music and gaming I’d still recommend the Fulla for budget purposes to get started. That’s the route I’d have taken if I’d paid a little more attention, I ended up paying the extra $99 and getting the Magni Heresy + Modi 3 combo. If you’re cool with putting up the price for the headphones and saving up with a little patience for the Schiit stack, that’s another great start that should last you a long time till you feel you wanna upgrade.
Speaking to the upgrade from Arctis to Sennheiser. I’m sure you know it’s hard to describe sound but the best way I’ve described audio upgrades is like, remember when everyone thought 4K was overrated and then they saw 4K and were like damn... ok forget 1080p. So put that in audio and that’s probably how you’ll feel when you finally upgrade.
Drew, firstly, thank you. Thank you for answering my questions and concerns. You have made me a customer of this drop. I’m stoked. It sounds like the sound difference will be night and day.
Ill see if I can’t find a discount on the Magni Heresy + Modi 3 combo; otherwise I’ll get the Fulla, because it sounds like you’re getting a rich experience. I want it for gaming, yes, but also bad a** music and movie listening. So it sounds like Magni Heresy + Modi 3 combo is my better route? I noticed it’s an AMP, not a DAC though.
Definitely better experience with the Magni + Modi combo. I’m gonna leave you with this rabbit hole, the Magni has two models, the Magni 3+ and the Heresy and one doesn’t sound better than the other, it took me forever to decide which one I wanted so feel free to go down that hole to figure out which one you’ll want 🤣.
LOL! Which one did you end up liking more? Also, by choosing one of these, I forfeit the DAC. That’s my only grief.
The DAC isn’t overly necessary. I bought the AMP first and once I had enough I bought the matching DAC. I went with aesthetics in the end. The heresy comes in black and red which I thought looked much cooler than the straight silver.
Yeah, I’m just someone who would definitely prefer the combo to make it easier and less desk space used 😂
after all, seems I have a lot of time to research this before it arrives since I just ordered it
I definitely would just get a premium amp first like the heresy and worry about upgrading the dac later. The Heresy is endgame imo meaning anything more isn't necessary. From there, all you'd need is a decent dac for perfection. Fulla isn't endgame but is okay.
In some measurements heresy is better than magni 3 but I think the difference is beyond "normal" human hearing anyway.
Fulla and the creative labs stuff you listed above is usb powered meaning it won't effortlessly power headphones - but might be enough for your needs - everyone is different. I like to play around with EQ with as much as 6 dB changes. In order to boost some frequencies up 6dB other frequencies have to be reduced by 6dB - essentially cutting the available output voltage (loosely speaking the loudness) in half.
A dac becomes vital if you hear buzzing or hissing - not uncommon to hear from pc's and especially lap tops. It becomes more of an issue using high gain and sensitive headphones. 6xx would be decent at hiding hissing/buzzing because it is not super sensitive.
Other quick notes: I enjoyed the 58x more but the 6xx is divine in some situations. Don't confuse modi 3 with magni 3 (one is a dac while the other is a amp)
Hi, Michael! Heading your advice, I avoided the Fulla and actually chose the JDS Stack (Atom DAC & Atom AMP). These are powered by connecting to the wall and treat your PC as source. Also, you are right, the Heresy does have more power, but as someone who cannot see themselves going above the 6XX or 58X, it will be plenty sufficient for me. I reviewed a ton of audiophile reviews of these respective Schiit vs Atom stacks, and there was absolute remarkably negligible difference (check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YANlHK9xrgM), so for me, it should be perfect. If I choose to go above the 6XX or 58X, then yes, I may look at the Heresy, but this stack should do great. The Fulla, as convenient as the DAC/AMP combo was, it would not have powered it well. I think the JDS Stack will do it justice. :)
H'm, making me think I should keep both the 58X and 6XX (can't afford it)!
Zeos reviews lawls. That guy can sell you anything in audio and make you buy two of each. JDS labs stuff is top notch. I went with the Schiit because they behave so similar but heresy has more than double the max power. Granted you're not wrong in saying that the Atom will have significantly more power than you'll ever need.
I like the gain options of the heresy as well. High gain of the heresy will take you right up to the power rails (actual max voltage) using a dac with 2.15Vrms. However, with such a large difference between high gain and low makes one really desire a 3rd gain setting. The high gain of Atom is nice because it isn't such a large jump from low to high.... and most likely unnecessary to go above that. I pretty much use low/unity gain on everything... so why did I need a super high gain? shoulder shrug.
I really enjoy the little extra bass of the 58x while keeping a lot of the same detail the 6xx has. I really don't have super hearing though so others may feel my statement is way off.
Absolutely, my friend! Great points. I think I'll be happy with the JDS Stack. :)
Yeah, I'm a basshead, so I really look forward to the 58X. I read so many reviews seemingly arguing and fighting which is better, and it drove me insane. So, I decided to buy both and review myself. What will stink is if I really like the 58X, then I'm left with the JDS Stack (which I don't know if the stack will make much of a good difference with the 58X) versus the great, needed difference it would with the 6XX, and I can't return the Stack at that point since I'll be past the point of returning it. It's really going to come down to what I like better. This is my first dip into audiophile world, and I don't think it could get any sweeter. These are some of the best, most popular sounding headphones on the market for this price range (or so I hear). I'm anxious!