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FloRolf
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Nov 4, 2016
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I heard the hd650 are pretty much the same (sound wise) as the he400i. Can someone confirm that and list the differences?
Nov 4, 2016
Vigrith
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Own both and heavily disagree - the 650s are darker, laid back and bassier (though the planar bass is nice and tight), the 400i are airy and more detail oriented in my opinion which is not something I particularly enjoy. The 650s are definitely more enjoyable especially if you listen for extended periods of time.
I'd say if anything they're more similar to the 400S than the 400i, the 400i are more similar to the HD600, slightly colder and more neutral. If there's a comparison I can draw between the 400i and the 650's it'd be that if properly fed and amplified they have a nice sparkle up top whilst remaining smooth.
They compliment each other nicely so if you're planning on owning both I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Nov 4, 2016
Bassists
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Nov 4, 2016
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How do these compare to Fostex T50RP Mk3? Any Idea?
Thanks!
Nov 4, 2016
Vigrith
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I don't own any Fostex headphones any more so I can't accurately answer that unfortunately - from all I've previously read/heard about the T50s however it seems they're relatively neutral as well with slight bass/treble emphasis depending on your mods (if any). The 650s are hard to compare to anything because they're very unique in their presentation and colouration, I would say given the price point these will be sold at however and how much the T50s cost I can see these being the better buy, never been too keen on Fostex' house sound (especially the highs that can get kinda shouty and fatiguing).
Nov 4, 2016
Bassists
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Nov 4, 2016
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I see.
I have ordered the Fostex T50RP Mk3 two weeks ago and i'm still waiting for them to arrive. This pair would be my first 'Real Headphones' upgrade, after i've been using some gimmickish Gaming Headset. Hopefully they could satisfy my needs.
I'm more of a bass-head, and T50RP certainly lacks a bit as i've read. I guess I just wanted a Planar set because everybody seem to point out that a Planar is a whole new different world from Dynamic drivers. And now this drop appears.. I just don't know how to treat this.
Nov 4, 2016
FloRolf
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Nov 5, 2016
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@Vigrith thanks a bunch! I'm currently running all my headphones off of a o2 combo but I'm really thinking about a tube amp (dark voice?) to complement the hd6xx, which I really want now :D
Nov 5, 2016
Vigrith
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I have the Darkvoice and it pairs nicely with HD650s, cool thing about them is that they scale pretty much infinitely though so the higher up you go, the better they'll sound - anywhere from the $200 DV to a $2500 Zana Deux SE, a $5000 Teton or a $10000 Viva Egoista and anywhere in between, the Senns just love power as well as tubes.
The O2 is nice for starters but it is a little too cold and plain for my tastes, not a fan of solid state either way but if you want a straight linear upgrade without having to deal with tubes then the Jotunheim is basically an O2 on steroids, everything the O2 does right the Jotun does better whilst also improving on all of its flaws (like being a little boring and stale).
Nov 5, 2016
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