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Massdrop Veil Wind Pants
Massdrop Veil Wind Pants
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Don’t let a little wind keep you indoors. Weighing just 3 ounces, the Massdrop Veil wind pants are ideal for running, hiking, biking, and more ... Read More

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kim.suarez
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Jan 3, 2019
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Hello Everyone! We are very excited to bring you an extension of our Veil Wind Collection, the Veil Wind Pant. Using the same fabric and manufacturer as the Veil Wind Jacket, these pants come in at 3 ounces and pack down into a small pocket attached to the inside of the waist -- perfect for travel. The waist is cinched using a drawcord. The pant legs are zippered and feature an elastic cinch you can pull around to prevent the wind from getting in. Why you should use our wind shell/pant kit: 1. Fabric: We’ve developed this proprietary fabric specifically with improved breathability as compared to other wind jackets and pants on the market. Our mill partner develops fabrics for Patagonia and The North Face and is the leading nylon mill for technical apparel. We worked with them for 6 months to develop a windproof fabric with the right amount of added breathability for high-output use. We also added an anti-bacterial coating for odor prevention on those multi-day hikes. 2. Performance-to-Price: We made sure to include the right amount of performance where it mattered in the material and the details. Because we work directly with our factories, we are able to pass along the savings to you. Whereas comparable products in the market start at $100, our wind veil pant is available to you at $59.99 3. Fit: These pants are considered a slim fit, but they will go over close-to-skin base layers if needed. We referenced the best-selling fits in this product category to bring you a unique fit that is easy for everyone to wear. Since this is a unisex item, be sure to reference the size chart and ask away if you are unsure about your size. And, if you haven’t already picked up the jacket, you can do so now with 2-day shipping! https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-veil-wind-shell#overview Thanks! Kim
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Jan 3, 2019
kim.suarez
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Jan 5, 2019
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Love this! Really appreciate the suggestion and we're always looking for new ideas from the community! Thanks for sharing!
Jan 5, 2019
kim.suarez
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Jan 5, 2019
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Another great idea! We've definitely been looking into the cycling space and are always looking to combine technical outdoor with urban functionality. We've been working with Schoeller lately, so glad to hear we could be on the right track. :)
Jan 5, 2019
mantasm
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Feb 25, 2019
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How big is the pocket? Any chance to fit non-plus iphone?
Feb 25, 2019
ReneeW
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Jan 22, 2019
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Could we have those as womens pants too?
Jan 22, 2019
Brad2
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Jan 21, 2019
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I Thought this drop was going to end in 14 more days. I didn't place my order as I was waiting to have my question about sizing answered.
Jan 21, 2019
Greg2
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Jan 27, 2019
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I had ordered the email when it was canceled just said not enough demand. I wonder if this is something where the rework the sizin and try again.
Jan 27, 2019
Secondmouse
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Feb 6, 2019
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wait, what? this drop was cancelled or did it just end early? caught me offstep...
Feb 6, 2019
Joseph07
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Jan 16, 2019
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Good Day, Will these Wind pants will also used as rain pants (water resistance) to protect from rain drops? I wonder if It's a "must have" for hiking on my backpack or should I purchase a budget rain pants such as  Marmot PreCip Thx :)
Jan 16, 2019
abela
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Jan 17, 2019
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The Marmot PreCip is made from a 2.5 layer fabric that has a 10k JIS-L 1092 rating. No wind pant on the planet is spec'ed out at that level, as they are designed to be wind pants, no rain pants. Two different products for two different purposes.
Jan 17, 2019
HikingWombat
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Jan 15, 2019
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Okay, grumpy tall man here. I've grumbled for years about lack of tall sizes, so one more time here goes! Need tall sizes, it's an extra inch or two of fabric, when Massdrop does a proprietary drop, please add tall sizes. For example, large with a 35 or 36" inseam, or an unfinished option! My two cents, and BTW I do own the windshell, really wish the pants were available!!
Jan 15, 2019
Brad2
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Jan 14, 2019
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Hi Kim, Thanks for making these pants. It saves me from having to re-sew and DWR the Wal-Mart wind pants I modified to see what features I needed and what I didn't in a wind pant. BTW I'm Greg2's brother, so as it turns out these are the exact pants I've been looking for. I have a quick question about the cut before I chose a size. I have big calves. What is the circumference of the leg, mid calf in an XL? Thanks, Brad
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Jan 14, 2019
ComfortablyNumb
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Jan 11, 2019
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"We've developed this proprietary fabric specifically with improved breathability as compared to other wind jackets and pants on the market"... such as what? 11 CFM isn't particularly great—a Houdini is 10 CFM and good luck running like pictured in one of those. Montbell Dynamos are only $10 more than this and are lighter, likely more "breathable", available immediately and not god-knows-when like these, and come from a far more reliable company.
Jan 11, 2019
abela
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Jan 17, 2019
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You are right in the price, cfm, and availability of the Dynamo's over the Veils. However, in defense of the Veil fabric, it is more durable than the 12d rip-stop nylon of the Dynamo pants, so those folks that have had issues with durability of the Dynamo's should find the Veil pants to be an awesome option, as they are pretty much identical in regards to features. btw, as I have written about in the past, the dynamo fabric has a tested cfm of 9.72, so it is not all that far away from the reported 11 of the Veil.
Jan 17, 2019
peripatetes
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Jan 9, 2019
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I got the Veil jacket but I'm a lot less clear on the use case for wind pants. Extra warmth on the trail is more useful on core and head rather than legs. If you really need extra weather protection on the legs it seems rather likely you're dealing with something wet, and rain pants aren't as much of a perspiration worry as waterproof jackets are. Maybe part of it is that I don't wear shorts as much as the target audience does.
Jan 9, 2019
peripatetes
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Jan 19, 2019
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Plenty of condescending attitude there, but zero reasoning and zero ideas.
Jan 19, 2019
abela
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Jan 19, 2019
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> Plenty of condescending attitude there, but zero reasoning and zero ideas. Take it however you wish. Don't let a keyboard diminish who you are.
Jan 19, 2019
Jaytal
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Jan 8, 2019
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Never in my hikes have I had a thought towards or desire for thin, baggy pants to pull tight and zipper around my legs to "protect from wind". I can't help but agree with RayF on this one. I can think of several better uses for my 60 bucks, but hey, there's emphasis on "my". Hope those who buy into this find good use out of it.
Jan 8, 2019
timc
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Jan 7, 2019
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Woukd it be straightforward for a tailor to shorten the inseam? Any chance for shorter inseams in the future?
Jan 7, 2019
kim.suarez
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It wouldn't be possible since there is a zipper at the leg openings. Currently, there are no plans for additional inseams.
Jan 7, 2019
lastzero
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Jan 6, 2019
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Besides the hip pocket, I don't see any pocket on the outside or is that just me?
Jan 6, 2019
kim.suarez
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Jan 7, 2019
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You are correct! Just the internal hip pocket that doubles as a stuff sack.
Jan 7, 2019
abela
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Jan 17, 2019
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>> Besides the hip pocket, I don't see any pocket on the outside or is that just me? Windpants do not traditionally have pockets, they are typically to be used as a garment that can be taken off and off quickly and as needed dependant on weather conditions. Cargo pants they are not. 😁
Jan 17, 2019
TortoiseThunder
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Jan 6, 2019
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I'm sure RayF commented here with just noise, I blocked him and suggest others do the same. Don't encourage noise.
Jan 6, 2019
Greg2
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Jan 6, 2019
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Thanks for making my pants I asked for when the windshirt was first released.
Jan 6, 2019
kim.suarez
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Jan 7, 2019
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Yay! Thank you for your suggestion! You are the reason these exist!
Jan 7, 2019
rocknrollctb
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Jan 6, 2019
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Could you please tell me if the "relaxed" waist measurements refer to the waist of the pants not stretched at all or if it is the stretched max? I am a man who usually wear 31 inch waist jeans. According to the sizing chart, I should go with the small, but I have a hard time believing that a pair of small unisex pants wouldn't be to small for me. Could the medium be a better fit, especially if I want to be able to put them over shorts? Thank you!
Jan 6, 2019
kim.suarez
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Good question! It means not stretched at all. These are based on a Men's fit, so if you normally wear a small, I'd stick with that. You should still be able to put them over shorts.
Jan 7, 2019
rocknrollctb
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Jan 7, 2019
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Thank you for the quick answer!
Jan 7, 2019
Pedo
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Jan 6, 2019
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status for 3XL doesnt make sense. Its smaller than a 2XL.
Jan 6, 2019
kim.suarez
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Yes, we just caught that as well! Updating the chart now. :)
Jan 7, 2019
W8lkinUSA
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Jan 6, 2019
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Is this belt sizing or tape measure sizing?
Jan 6, 2019
kim.suarez
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Jan 7, 2019
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Tape measure sizing
Jan 7, 2019
W8lkinUSA
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Jan 8, 2019
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Thanks for the clarification!!
Jan 8, 2019
micahk
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Jan 5, 2019
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I've been wearing Saran Wrap for years. And they thought i was crazy....
Jan 5, 2019
Igor_K
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Jan 5, 2019
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I'm really exciting to see you are starting to make wind pants! It's really useful peace of equipment, and there are not many of them around. But... I have some criticism if you do not mind. This pants does not look really "ultralight" for me, you are adding features which definitely increase weight and cost, and I doubt they are really useful. Actually I'd like to see pants similar to "Body Wrappers Ripstop Pants - 701" made out of your (very good!) fabric and priced at $40... About waist drawcord... 701 pants has just elastic waist, and it is working really good (I do use 701 pants a lot, and no - not for dancing :-)). I see only one purpose of drawcord - to keep pants in place if somebody put something heavy into pocket. To avoid that I'd remove pockets as well (you can have pockets in your shorts). Also I'm wondering about the purpose of that ankle zippers... Pants look like slim fit for me, you may not be able to put them on without removing trail runners even with that zippers... And even if you could do it - you pants will get really dirty inside (ask me how I know :-)), and then your leg will get dirty. Now pocket packing... You always can pack pants into the leg, here is a video how to do it for jeans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_ri4O8sck With wind pants you do not need to be that careful (just jam them with one lower leg sticking out and invert leg), I can easily do it in around 20 seconds...
Jan 5, 2019
Igor_K
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Jan 7, 2019
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Hello Everybody! I see a lot of pro-zipper comments, I decided to put my answer here... When I was researching 701 pants before buying I saw a lot of people complaining about missing zippers and I had the same concerns, so I understand it. But in my use scenarios I do not need zippers (just stretchy elastic cuffs), moreover they will be "on the way". Of course I trust my own experience more then anything I read here, so I decided just to share it. YMMV and you may have different experience, so be it (that's why we have both hooded and hoodless down jackets - despite second one is obviously not as good as first :-)). My purpose of wind pants is "warmth layer" in 2-season conditions, not active layer... I'm not putting them on and off a lot. I'm using it for two things: every morning at home for walking from home to fitness center and back (this is to keep my knees warm); and when hiking/backpacking when a stop for more than half hour or when I reach campsite (I have data point: I was comfortable wearing synthetic button up shirt / Rab Strata vest / Squamish windbreaker / Columbia Silver Ridge pants / 701 pants at 42F weather with 5MPH wind after sunset doing camp chores for about one hour - and without 701 pants I would be cold, most warmth in this combination was due to windbreaker and wind pants)... I do not use 701 on the go because this is what my hiking shorts / pants are for (with the only one exception - I did use 701's in rainstorm over shorts and under rain skirt to have less water coming into my goretex socks). Moreover in two season conditions it is usually too hot to hike in 701 (100% too hot above 50F), and 701 fabric is at least TWICE more air permeable than Veil fabric (two layers of 701 is more air permeable in "darth vader test" then one layer of Veil jacket)... I do not think Veil pants will be comfortable for anything above 15 minute warm-up for me (I run hot), even with zippers open... I do not use 701 for short stops because I'm fine with just jacket. I can see situation then pants are required for short stop, but I do not see wind pants appropriate in it (it should be far below freezing or freezing rain and you probably do alpine climbing, you need full side-zipper hardshell pants for that; or it can be some sport like weight lifting where you need to be really warm between exercises - but again fleece pants will serve you better). Now about removing boots - there is a trick :-)... First thing I do when I reach campsite is I loose my laces, so my trail runners becomes slippers (this is to let my legs rest and to enter/exit my shelter quicker). Removing "slippers" is obviously more easy then pulling pants above them (with zippers or without). Considering "fitness situation" - there is such thing as "speed laces", if you have them it is quicker (and more comfortable) to remove shoe then to pull pants above it... And if you do not have zipper on ankle - there is nothing to poke in your leg (I did have athletic pants with zippers - no more).
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Jan 7, 2019
Greg2
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Jan 8, 2019
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I have a slightly different usage case using these windpants as my only pair of pants on a trip. I have a base layer for sleeping, a pair of liner shorts, and a pair of wind pants and that’s it. So I don’t like to hike in my base layer. In the morning I will start with the wind pants on until it warms up to be suitable for shorts. Some days that is only 30 minutes until I am warmed up but usually its an hour or two. So I see mine as a primary hiking layer in temps lower than about 55. For me (Canadian Rockies). This is a good portion of the morning. So I end up taking them off at least once in the morning and usually put it on at some point during the day again on a ridge and want to get on quickly during rain. So so for me it’s worth the ounce. I like hearing about the sight differences in usage cases that change what is the optimal solution for each person
Jan 8, 2019
Tonygxd
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Jan 5, 2019
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Is the sizing vanity or real? I measure a real 40 inch waist. So a loose 40 would fall and 38 to tight?
Jan 5, 2019
kim.suarez
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The sizing is true to size. I would go for the 40.
Jan 5, 2019
mikefricchi
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Jan 5, 2019
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I would purchase but they ship in May and I’m setting out for a thru-hike in March...
Jan 5, 2019
kim.suarez
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Aw bummer on the timing! The Wind Jacket is still available with 2-day shipping if needed. Would love to see photos from your trip in March!
Jan 5, 2019
Hatchetman
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Jan 4, 2019
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What's the packed size of these?
Jan 4, 2019
emptym
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Jan 5, 2019
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Nice wallet. Looks just like mine, complete w/ the same or similar cards.
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Jan 5, 2019
kim.suarez
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I love this wallet. Have been on a somewhat minimalist kick lately hence the wallet and keys. Feels great just have one or two small items to carry around vs way more than necessary
Jan 5, 2019
yamhill
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Jan 4, 2019
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They look nice, but the sizing won't work for me. I need longer/slimmer. My normal size is 34x36, so the medium should fit in the waist, but it's 4 inches too short, and the XXL is long enough but 8 inches too big around the waist and hips. Are you going to add more size options?
Jan 4, 2019
TallCarl
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Jan 5, 2019
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As another 34x36, I'd also love to see longer inseam options.
Jan 5, 2019
ioioi210
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Jan 5, 2019
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I'm a 29x32 and I'm interested in these pants
Jan 5, 2019
RayF
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Jan 4, 2019
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"Don’t let a little wind keep you indoors."? How about: Don't let a little naïveté blow sixty-bucks out of your checking account? Wind has been around a long, long time; the good kind won't hurt you and no pair of pants will help you with the bad kind--think about it ;- )
Jan 4, 2019
Manleyk
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Jan 4, 2019
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I have a 31" waist and a 34" inseam in most pants. What size would that be?
Jan 4, 2019
kim.suarez
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That's a good question! What size are you typically in drawcord-closure garments? You may be able to get away with a size up in the waist, since you can cinch it down a bit, so the Medium might best suit you to get you a little added length in the inseam but having the waist still be manageably to size.
Jan 4, 2019
Gina_1306
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Jan 4, 2019
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Are they waterproof by chance???
Jan 4, 2019
kim.suarez
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They are not. They have a DWR treatment thought that makes them water resistant
Jan 4, 2019
RayF
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Jan 4, 2019
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Unfortunately Gina, our waterproof wind pants are still in development but our latest prototype is showing promise!

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Check back often for updates ;- )
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