Massdrop Veil Wind Shell
Massdrop Veil Wind Shell
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Don’t let a little wind keep you indoors. Weighing just 2.7 ounces, the Massdrop Veil wind shell is ideal for hiking, biking, running, traveling, and more Read More

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DannyMilks
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Jan 30, 2018
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Hello everyone, We’re thrilled to present our newest Massdrop product: the Veil Wind Shell. At 2.7 ounces, it’s light and packs down small enough to always carry with you. Wind shells are a critical piece of nearly any outdoor lover's kit, whether you’re running, backpacking, day hiking, or mountain biking. So why doesn't everyone own or use a wind shell? Not Breathable: The most popular wind shells have zero breathability, which means you'll sweat as soon as you start exercising, even during low-output activities like walking. This includes such jackets as the Patagonia Houdini and Mountain Hardwear Ghost Lite. Look and Feel: The sweat-inducing fabrics most commonly used tend to feel plastic-y and are really shiny, which not everybody likes. I've frequently heard that they look and feel like you're wearing a garbage bag. Price: Typically, wind shells cost between $90 and $140. For those of you who have and use your wind shell, the cost is usually worth it, despite the downsides (look, feel, breathability). But for any of you who haven't tried it out, the cost can seem unnecessarily high for what seems like a super simple item, and one that often is thought of only as an emergency piece. The Benefit Isn't Obvious: The most common use case for a wind shell is that it is a just-in-case item—like if you get caught in a storm or cold front, this light, packable jacket will protect you just enough so you can get back to camp or your car. Runners often use a wind shell as a warm-up piece, and then stow it away for the rest of their run. But there are a multitude of other uses . . . Well, we heard you, so we worked with the top mill to make a custom fabric that addresses these issues. Then, the jacket is made in the highest-quality factory with a design and fit that makes this an unbeatable all-around piece. We'll go into production as soon as the drop ends with delivery in Summer. So here it is:
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Windproof and Breathable: It's challenging to make a fabric that is both breathable and windproof (so body humidity can get out but cold air can't get in). The fabric we've developed has some breathability, which means you'll stay comfortable longer. It extends the jacket’s use from being just an emergency item to being possible to wear all day long for low-intensity activities (like hiking and traveling) and still work well for biking and running. Aesthetics: We worked with the mill to create a fabric that is high performance AND good looking/feeling. It took a lot of back-and-forth to create just the right fabric. We wanted to make this jacket comfortable feeling and good looking enough to wear around town, while commuting, and while traveling. Highest Performance-to-Price Ratio: Thanks to our business model, smart sourcing, and working directly with the mill and manufacturer, we've been able to cut out all of the fat and give you the best bang for the buck anywhere. An Essential Item: A great wind jacket protects you from the wind, of course, but also can be used for so much more. For low-activity sports, you can wear it all day long in mild weather while maintaining a comfortable body temperature. The roll-away hood makes this better for cycling, and I use it daily on my bike commute. It is significantly warmer than a long-sleeve base layer while being much lighter and more packable. It protects against mosquitoes. You can use it for light rain, like we see here in California. I carry a wind shell instead of a rain shell for 8 months of the year (note: this is not waterproof, but it'll resist precip better than a base layer). And it adds significant warmth when worn over a lightweight down jacket.*
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A note on fit: This jacket has an athletic cut. If you generally wear medium, then a medium Veil will fit over a T-shirt or base layer. If you intend to wear it over a thicker fleece or down jacket, then go up one size. For reference, the model is 5’11”, 160 lbs, and always wears a medium in other brands. He is wearing a medium Veil over a thin fleece. In the future, we will strive to offer women’s sizes as well. We are providing two ways to figure out the best fit for you: first is the jacket measurements, so you can compare to an existing jacket, and second is the recommended size for your body measurements. Jacket Dimensions
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I think you'll find that once you get the Veil, it'll become your go-to piece for so many of your adventures and daily errands. I know I have. - Danny * "Putting a windshirt over a hooded [down jacket] was a DRAMATIC system insulation improvement even without the added benefit of blocking the wind." - Richard Nisley, https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/86574/#post-2064835
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Jan 30, 2018
Cardamomtea
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Jul 29, 2019
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You might want to tag @kim.suarez for your question because Danny is no longer at Drop. :-)
Jul 29, 2019
slavago
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Jul 29, 2019
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@kim.suarez is there any ETA when Midnight Blue XXL will be back in stock? Thanks
Jul 29, 2019
kim.suarez
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Outdoors & Ultralight Collaborations
Feb 1, 2018
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Hi everyone! I wanted to jump in and give some more details on the technical aspects of the Veil fabric. My name is Kim Suarez, and I am the Soft Goods Product Development Manager at Massdrop. I came to Massdrop 6 months ago after working for over 6 years in Product Development for major brands in the outdoor and denim space. This fabric was developed in partnership with the mill OneChang in South Korea. They are experts when it comes to lightweight nylon fabrics in both downproof and highly breathable applications. Some of the companies they work with include The North Face, Patagonia, Columbia, and now Massdrop! Our initial brief to OneChang was to find a lightweight nylon fabric that was windproof, durable, breathable, and had a DWR finish. This didn't exist within their off-shelf fabric library, so we began the 6-month process of developing a custom fabric together that would have all of these attributes. This included hundreds of emails, phone calls, and back-and-forth discussions with their amazing team to land where we did for the Veil. They answered all of our questions and performed multiple tests to make sure we were on the right track. Along with formal lab testing of this fabric, we passed samples out to key influencers in the trail running and ultralight space, and also did some informal testing ourselves. This included many miles of running in this jacket in heat, cold, and rain—Bay Area weather can be finicky, but great for testing products! A run on a particularly hot day led us to add an antibacterial finish to ensure odor is controlled during your high-output endeavors. What we landed on in terms of basic fabric specs is below: • 100% nylon • 15d • 31 gsm • 11.2 CFM • 5.5 lb average tear strength in warp/weft • Antibacterial finish for odor control We did formal lab testing at 10 home launders of the DWR finish, and it still remained at 95% of its original repellency. To answer @MasterRo question in addition to what Danny has added, the DWR will diminish over time. This can be avoided to some extent with minimal washing and placing the jacket in low dryer settings for 15 minutes after washing. And, of course, you can apply a new coating yourself, with a product like Nikwax TX Direct spray-on water-repellent treatment, found at most outdoor stores. If you really want to geek out on this fabric, see further details below: • This fabric is silicone coated, which is better than PU coating for this type of product, as it permeates into the fabric and is lighter weight • Semi-dull yarns were used to reduce the shine of the fabric and make it more relevant to everyday wear • Nylon texture yarns were twisted with nylon filament yarns to ensure there was the right amount of texture to the fabric, while avoiding irritation and rubbing when next to the skin • Very fine nylon filaments were used to create a durable fabric with a soft hand (for context, the denier of each filament is 1.176d versus silk at 1d) Thanks for checking out the Veil! If you have any additional questions, please ask away!
Feb 1, 2018
SunCityJon
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Dec 19, 2018
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Hey Kim before you start selling another product can we get an update on the one we’ve already been charged for? Or get the update you said we should be getting?
Dec 19, 2018
slavago
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Aug 1, 2019
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Hi, do you know when Midnight Blue XXL will be back in stock? Thanks
Aug 1, 2019
RaspberryCanoe
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Sep 5, 2019
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I have a Patagonia Houdini jacket and pants that seem to be very similar to this jacket .. but much pricier. Anyone own both ? How do they compare? I never track without them as they are light, warm (somehow) and breath very well. They fend off light rain well, but not effective in heavy rain.
Sep 5, 2019
oberman
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Aug 26, 2019
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Good price but look like ass.
Aug 26, 2019
JessSullivan
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Aug 25, 2019
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Hi, I'm curious about SPF / sun resistance. Any input or observations? Cheers, Jess
Aug 25, 2019
SmithyNZ
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Aug 19, 2019
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I wish the advertising wouldn't focus on its weight in ounces, as it's not very useful for most people. Only three countries in the world still use the imperial weights system: Myanmar, Liberia, and... USA... Luckily the metric weight can be found right down the bottom. First world problem, I know. :)
Aug 19, 2019
DailyHiker
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Aug 8, 2019
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Disappointing. No armpit mesh to help cool one down during physical activity. Also, the zippered chest pocket is inadequate to stash a tshirt or longsleeved Tee. I’ll stick with the Helikon-Tex Windjammer.
Aug 8, 2019
spiderbro
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Aug 27, 2019
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Why would you want to stash a shirt into a jacket pocket?
Aug 27, 2019
scoobydoonz
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Jul 16, 2019
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You say this jacket is breathable, but what is it rated at? 5K? 10k?
Jul 16, 2019
spiderbro
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Jul 22, 2019
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It has 11CFM of air permeability. I doubt they did the inverted cup (or similar) breathability tests which you're referring to, as air permeability is a much better indicator of real world breathability. This probably breathes way better than anything that has a breathability rating in g/m^2/d or RET
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Jul 22, 2019
xin24914
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Jun 24, 2019
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Anyone washed and machine dried this shell? Any feedback? What is the temperature when drying
Jun 24, 2019
keessonnema
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Apr 26, 2019
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Alright. I haven't collected my package from the post office (As it was delivered there for some reason), but I have to pay an astounding €25 in customs fees. I'm from The Netherlands and wasn't expecting it to be this expensive. I have ordered some sunglasses aswell from Massdrop that'll arrive next month. Only hoping it won't be another 25 bucks.
Apr 26, 2019
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