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Massdrop x Beyerdynamic DT 177X GO Headphones

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Apr 16, 2019

I wonder why not choose dt 1990 pro instead of this for the massdrop, i mean prices are very close to each other and the 1990 pro version is so much better. Big mistake from massdrop.

Cattycake1988

Apr 16, 2019

MetroidI would hazard a guess that the 1990s are selling so well that Beyer doesn't want to undercut their cash cow like what happened with Focal and the Elear vis-a-vis the Elex. But I'd bet a lot of money that the 1770 wasn't selling too well and so Beyerdynamic was more willing to work with Massdrop on a variant so that they could get some profit from all the 1770 parts that were languishing unsold in their warehouses.

Apr 16, 2019

MetroidThese are being touted as a more portable option that's easier to drive. An open back with a 250 ohm driver wouldn't make sense in this scenario.

Apr 16, 2019

Cattycake1988So true, checking on any retailer we can clear see that prices are close to each other and in some cases the dt 1770 pro even cost more.

Will

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Chief Product Officer

Apr 16, 2019

More requests for the 1770 on MD
Our release calendar is laid out to support progressions in these communities. The available progression of open-back headphones is more complete than closed-back headphones.
If we get enough requests for a 1990-based collaboration, we can bring that to beyer.

Apr 16, 2019

Will"More requests for the 1770 on MD" You know this is bound by the price itself not the product per se. I double dare you right now to create a new poll in which let users choose between the 2 if the massdrop price is the same. They requested more the dt 1770 pro because they thought price would be much lower than the dt 1990 pro.

Apr 16, 2019

jaydunndiddit"more portable option". https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/beyerdynamic/dt-1770-pro, Good luck with that, even the dt 1990 pro weights less than the dt 1770 pro, 0.8 lbs dt 1990 pro x 0.9 lbs dt 1770 pro, oh you said easier to drive, one is 250ohm and the other is 32ohm but since neither is portable then what you said defeats the purpose of a "more portable option". https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/beyerdynamic/dt-1990-pro

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Abula

Apr 16, 2019

MetroidI'm also more interested on 199X, not that 177X are bad, im just not into closed. If the drop happen ill be there.

Apr 16, 2019

MetroidIf it can be used at work, on a plane, in a Starbucks, and provides superior isolation, and can easily be driven from a cellphone, then they fit the bill of being portable in context here. You're not going to go jogging or bike in them like you would with IEMs but the 177X are more portable friendly than something like the TH900 due to isolation and build. So yeah, these are a more portable.option compared to the original 1770 and especially the 1990.

Apr 16, 2019

jaydunndidditI do prefer the th900 more than anything ever made by bayer till this date. The th900 is the best v shaped audio headphones to date but not going to discuss it any further as is off topic. I would never buy a bayer headphones in general as their frequency response and everything else looks very similar, for portable devices as there are many better and cheaper options but that is me. Well I said what I had to say, people will have to make their own mind about it, the dt 1990 pro is a very good headphones which for me stays between the th900 x hd800s. So if somebody wants something that stays in between the th900 and the hd800s then the dt 1990 pro is the best headphone to have whereas the dt 1770 pro is a very step back.

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Will

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Chief Product Officer

Apr 16, 2019

MetroidSorry, I only take single dares not double dares, too dangerous.

Apr 16, 2019

WillBetter watch it before things escalate too far...

rhenom

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Apr 16, 2019

MetroidYou do realize one of the main things that makes the 1770 more portable than the 1990 is that the 1770 is closed back so everyone in public isn't hearing your music (and you aren't hearing the outside world over your music) vs the 1990 which is an open headphone.

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Apr 16, 2019

jaydunndidditWell...I guess my holding-out-hope for a portable Sennheiser collaboration is still in vain. Never owned any Beyers, but these still look a bit chunky for portable use (IMO) and won't be ideal for taking on-the-go when space is at a premium. I was definitely hoping for something more slim, definitely more portable than these even if they are easy to drive...they're still based on home/studio Beyer models. And the price point at $380? Price caught me off guard. Maybe a better 'true portable' option have been to tweak or update the T51p instead of a home/studio model? And I don't even like on-ear headphones. Update the T51p with bigger earcups, tweaked tuning, foldable, etc. A size closer something like Sony MDR-1A, Sennheiser Momentums, Vmoda M100, etc. I hope these do well. But I just don't see the portability here. It's just another tweaked Beyer that can be driven without an amp :/

Apr 16, 2019

Willhehe, well the challenge is on.

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Apr 16, 2019

jaydunndiddithehe

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Apr 16, 2019

rhenomMy point is that dt 1770 pro was never meant to be portable even if is closed back, like I already discussed here, there are much better and cheaper headphones out there if you want portability. Audio technica m50x is one of them for $150.

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Apr 16, 2019

mayorblurpsSo true.

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Apr 16, 2019

MetroidAgree with you on closed back ≠ portable but disagree re: m50x :) $380 even at introductory price is steep. Even the classy TH-X00s were 399 when they released.

Apr 16, 2019

mayorblurpsI've had these for about 2 weeks now and have used them ever single day in the office. They isolate so well that they are one of the few closed backs that I can enjoy at a low volume in a busy office and they control sound leak very well. For their intended portability of being used in that setting, or maybe on a plane or the bus is a coffee shop, they give you the SQ of a studio headphone that is easy to power and built like a tank. I've sadly have never found an on ear that isolates well enough to not let a lot of sound in/out. Nor have a found a set that can even match or rival these and others in SQ. And they all really don't seem to be built as well as these Beyers and other types. I have the 177X is a typical Slappa case and they don't take up that much space. The 1770 case was massive. So is the case for the Shure 1540 and NightOwls. MrSpeakers case for the Aeons was also on the larger side. Admittedly, the Cascade splits the difference as they can collapse similar to the m50x (but substantially better build all around). The Cascade is one of the only folding designs I'm aware of that skirts nothing in build and durability. But they also have a price to match that. Although, when I care about maximum portability, I wear my IEMs in which they can't be beat in this regard.

Apr 16, 2019

mayorblurpsWell the ath-m50x by standards, is the best portable sounding headphones, 0.65 lbs, closed back and $150. On portability still sucks but is the best of both worlds, it stands on the middle ground. https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/audio-technica/ath-m50x Regarding the th-x00 I would only buy it if I didn't have a v shaped headphones like the th-900, now if i had a choice x th-x00 or the dt 1770 pro, i would definitely get the th-x00.

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Apr 16, 2019

jaydunndidditVery good points. I guess the term portable, like all things audio, is subjective. I wish I needed a pair of headphones like these Beyers so I could experience them. But the price is a little off-putting. I'll wait a bit and decide. The Noirs/99c are more my taste in SQ but they aren't portable either really, in the way I'd want to use them anyway. Agree wholeheartedly about on-ear headphones too. I wish I could like them but they cause discomfort almost immediately and sound quality suffers. I'm lucky that the OG Senn Momentums fit my ears, and I still enjoy them. I may forego this drop and check out the now discounted 630VB that flew under the radar For now I can stick to the Sony XM3s which really are fantastic for BT with LDAC (I held off as long as I could) on the go and true portability

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Apr 16, 2019

MetroidI compared my TRX00 EB to the 177X in my review and they are definitely not a pace above the Beyers sound wise nor from build. They simply lack the level of finesse and clarity in the mids and highs to do so. And don't get me started on the thinly padded headband and plastic yokes or garden hose of a cable or hot and sibilant treble...

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Apr 16, 2019

MetroidI hear ya. I just disagree on the sound. I have the M50 anniversary edition. First 'good' pair of headphones I bought years ago. They didn't wow me like I thought they would. I think the soundstage is narrow, overall sound to me is meh - less bass than I expected, a little harsh in the treble for me - not musical, for lack of a better word. I'd much rather get a used pair of Momentums or sony mdr-1r/1a for $150 - both seem to have a better v shaped sound (to my ears) than the M50 which is technically a studio monitor. I just couldn't get around to loving the M50, still can't. But that's just me :) And having owned the X00s makes me want the TH900 so badly, but just can't justify the cost and another pair of headphones. If I sell some items though, maybe I can get lucky. Problem is deciding on a higher end IEM like campfire vs TH900 or Cascade.

Apr 16, 2019

mayorblurpsCascade over the TRX00 any day of the week. Same with the TH900 despite my huge enjoyment of them. Sadly they all have the same issue: hot treble that loves to get sizzly, a very recessed midrange, and some ringing/resonance. Despite being on of the only headphones to perfectly nail the tone and texture of an actual woofer down low. The Cascade has just as much bass (less sub bass impact), but mids are smoother and not as recessed and the highs are MUCH better controlled. They're also built substantially better and are just more clean sounding by comparison. It's honestly no contest unless you just REALLY love them lows and wood cups (which are admittedly gorgeous).

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Apr 16, 2019

jaydunndidditRegarding sound, I dont have the headphones so i cant say much about it other than using the dt 1770 pro review as a reference. I see the th-x00 as mid to high end headphones just like the dt 1990 pro, I see the dt 1770 pro as mid range headphones only.

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Apr 16, 2019

mayorblurpsI do not own a m50x and never did, I was about to buy it and instead got something else, regarding it my opinion is based on reviews and so on, I do understand you, I myself prefer my denon ah-d 5000 than my sennheiser 6xx and people say so many good things about the 6xx which I dont see or hear, the 6xx is a good headphones but the denon ah-d 5000 is so much better, the denon ah-d 5000 was my end game for 10 years, one of the drivers in my denon 5000 is broken, I'm trying to get some th-900 drivers, i think it will fit perfectly there hehe.

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Jestercow

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Apr 17, 2019

Willwhere do I go to request the 199x?

ericleckey

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May 2, 2019

MetroidSpeaking for my interest. I went for this drop because they are a good set of closed back headphones. A good set of closed back are a hard find, and for $380, I am thinking they are probably an exceptional and unmatched buy. I would not have purchased the 1990s as I already have several open headphones in this same price range. Good Open headphones are all over, but quality closed are few and far between. So I saw this as an opportunity to get a good quality closed set at this price, which was hard to beat. Also, Massdrop has put out a lot of open headphones, but only a few good closed back, so this was an opportunity for MD to drop a really good closed back at a great price.

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