In some ways it may be better. I mean its good treble and it isn't treble murder like most Beyers... BUT it is not bassy at all, and I actually find myself adding bass to even make it listenable (and I don't have a way to eq it balanced, without software eq, and I don't tend to like to do that; so that defeats one of the purposes for buying this unit balanced for me). Also I've noticed that I prefer it on a tube amp or class A amp to give it less intense sound (even at the low impedance, which is odd)... even so, it is still overly present in the treble department, and again while better/warmer than other Beyer units, it still isn't as good as the demo I heard... my hope at this point is that it may just need 100+ hours of break-in (which I'm in the process of).
I can get decent bass with about a 20% eq in the bass (2 o'clock on my subjective 3... adjusting no other settings), but without it, it becomes unlistenable after 30 minutes to an hour... treble fatigue. The clarity is great though (everywhere but the bass), so if you value that, these might be the ticket. Also the soundstage is better than the Sennheisers, even though its closed... The 789 just seems like a bad match regarding the bass, and the headphone becomes overly analytical. I didn't like the dark voice at first, but with some break-in its become the best option for me (with bass eq). If the bass doesn't round out at all with break-in I probably will just return them, because I'd rather have an 880 than these for the soundstage and overall presentation; although these do have more detail... They sound "OK" on other amplifiers I've tested, but I'd say they are very amp picky overall, again specifically in regard to treble murder and the bass. They sound pretty good on the Bravo Ocean because its somewhat warmer for example.
I'm also not sure why bcaulf keeps defending these things, and seeming to indicate that they have enough bass... I literally put on my Koss 95x's last night and went back and forth, and the electrostats have more subbass and a more rounded bass presentation than these do... even on the dark voice with a manual bass eq bump... I'm fine with light bass as long as the information is present (I'm not a basshead), but literally without eq there is a TON of information missing in the lower registry. With eq, some of it returns, but it still lacks subbass performance. To pretend like this isn't the case, means he either has bad hearing, they require more burn-in than I have applied, or maybe I just got a bum unit... idk? If it doesn't end up evening out, I'm going to have to return my set- unsure if I'll return it for another or just return it all together... They should have some bass for 380-450... I bought these because they were different and better than the 1990 based on the demos. These do not sound like the graph that they presented at purchase, while the demo unit holistically did. After this, I might rather have the DT 880 (600 ohm), DT 1990, or even DT 1770 from Beyer and deal with the peaks...