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I really would appreciate a conversation on how to make these "appear" in the sub-bass range if anyone has ideas, though. I'm using a teac UD-301 into HA-501, and neither sets of included pads did it for me. (Also the leatherettes were basically dropping my ears into the driver so Imma need to find deeper cups for these if I'm going lambskin or whatever)
I'm currently using brainwavz xl pleather and getting a good seal with glasses. Bass isn't rattling my teeth, but I'm able to hear many more metal bassists now! If these are anything like DT 770, subbass will increase with age.
thanks, very happy to hear that