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Massdrop x Beyerdynamic DT 177X GO Headphones

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Nov 8, 2021

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A percision instrument for electronic / complex hip hop

I need to be honest about this one. For a while I was very disapointed because I was thinking that this was going to be the do-all swiss army knife pair of headphones that is great for all kinds of music. I read reviews that loved loved loved these and of course like a sales thirsty good capitalist citizen I didn't listen to contrasting opinions and reviews to get the whole story. For me, for my ears, it is not the do-all swiss army knife headphones, by a long shot. I almost was going to sell them to get a studio reference neutral pair like Neuman NDH20s or something like that because most of the time I listen to music at the end of the day as a ritual of unwinding sitting in my fake Eames chair getting lost in music to release myself from the stresses of work and grad school. I tired these for that when I got them and I was surprised at how little I liked them. I tried them again a few days later and the same. A few days later and the same. Then last night right before I packed them up to sell them, while I was finishing up a school project I figured, what the hell why not one ore shot. I connected them to a great DAC and put on some super exciting great electronic music and holy SH%T was I wrong. Good god these are SO much fun in that zone. These are just not my go to for end of the day relaxation music which like I said, these days is the only time I can really cut aside for music listening. The bass detail this these headphones delivers is unlike anything I've heard at this price point. Truly, its amazing. I will say that I am not the biggest fan of the native sound signature but the DAC I used to truly find my love for these is the RME ADI-2 DAC FS and it has really incredible eq options and that took care of the sound signature problems that most people try to fix with pad swapping. I know that DAC is expensive so what I would recommend if it's outside of one's price range and what I would also personally do if I didnt have that wonderful DAC and want to have these headphones, which I would now HIGHLY recommend is get something along the lines of the Schitt Loki mini or Bellari eq. Get this, get that, lean back, put on some really complex bass heavy electronic music, and disappear into the adventure. And again, this is coming from the perspective of someone who was literally inches away from selling and replacing these. So to me, I think the reason that the sound signature is not what I love love love and is because when I am in relaxo mode, I listen to all sorts of music. Folk music - these are not great for me, world music - the same, classical - not so much, jazz - a little better but a lot of the complexity inherent in that music is lost for me with these, blues or soul - I haven't tried this but I'd imagine the same but it could be a little better electronic and complex bass heavy hip hop- it's unreal. Excellent. Amazing. Mind bending at times. Get a descent or good eq and that helps a bit. Get a great eq and they're incredible and I don't see why these can't be your end game headphones at this price point if you love closed back and access to very detailed bass. For me these are NOT analytical break down and study every song I hear headphones. These also are not end of the day relaxation get lost in any type of music headphones. For me the kings of that are still the HD600 + good tube amp. These are are super fun and at times breath takingly exiting for anything electronic / complex hip hop monsters and also super fun for video games. I am SO grateful that I gave these one more shot last night before I sold them off. I am a collector and I like to have a tool for each type of music and these are absolutely 100% now going to be the ones I reach for every time I want to get wild in some bass thumping wild experimental see what we can do with the art of sound electronic music.

Recommends this product? Yes

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Nov 9, 2021

PatswalkerFor clarification sake, it just took adding a DAC to the chain and boom, you're sold on the 1770s? Were they too "flat sounding" when they disappointed you in the past? I make music and know lots of musicians have the BeyerDynamic 70's for industry trusted cans when tracking, but I have considered these for more mixing and less casual listening.

Nov 12, 2021

Bedlam-InsideNope. It took the right type of music, the super exciting great electronic music and complex bass heavy rap and boom I was sold. Any dac helps headphones in my experience. The better the dac the better the sound. The one I mentioned is very special but but the #1 most important thing that made me want to keep these was listening to them on the right music. I still think they are not good at all for any other music but they're incredible for those two types of music. For more graceful delicate music like the jazz, folk, and world music I would never listen to these with that. That's why I thought these were terrible until I tried them on the right music. I know other people don't feel the same and that's fine, that experience is mine and I'm way grateful I gave them a second shot because now I know for me they are the perfect percision tool to listen to complex hiphop and electronic. Every one has different ears and to my ears they aren't anywhere close to linear and neutral. I don't mix music but I'd imagine you want to do it with neutral headphones.

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Nov 12, 2021

PatswalkerHey of course, you're entitled to your own experiences and articulation of them. I'm curious what headphones you'd recommend for Jazz/Folk/World you mentioned utterly failed on these, or even what headphones you've experienced the most versatility with. I didn't catch anything in your testimony re: flat vs a more attenuated frequency response, but hearing that you don't mix or make music with the headphones, and like hearing headphones bring out the 'color' (excuse my summing/paraphrasing) you'd be more inclined to cans with a more attenuated FR?

Nov 12, 2021

Bedlam-InsideI'm going to preface this by saying I am not a musical professional. I don't mix music. That's wizardry magic to me. My ears are not trained at all really to do anything other than enjoy music. I previously was solely a record collector / gamer and would vomit in my mouth a little of people asked me if I was an audiophile. Only since the beginning of 2021 have I stepped into the nicer headphone world so if you're looking for an opinion from a music professional that has experience in mixing and knows the lingo, I'm not that dude. I'm only here in the music listening game to have a fun party in my ears and see how expressive I can get that party to be. To answer your ending question I'm not sure I know what attenuated means in this context. If it means something else in the mixing/recording world I apologize for my confusion but I have always though it was in the area of "thin or reduced in thickness", like somewhat of an opposite of what I would hear as a tuned set of headphones. Like one that lacks a special sound signature that some companies like to tune their headphones to. This to me is also what a flat response is so in my eyes both those words are the same or very similar when I use them. I am a writer so I tend to stick pretty tight to dictionary based definitions, but please let me know if that's not what you mean so I can best explain what you're asking. I very well could be way off with what I think attuned means. I didn't mention flatness or attenuated because off of the definitions I know of those words, it's not at all what I would describe these as. My listening experience with these is that they have weight and sharpness. For me they are tuned in a way that is fu&#ing awesome for certain music types but not all. An example is when I was listening to the last Amon Tobin album, the way these would dig deeeeeeeep in to the bass and also reach way up into the highs literally made me say, "Holy sh&t!". The middle is ok, its there for sure, but not nearly as strong as the highs and lows. For example, the Sennheiser 600 and Grado SR325x I mention farther in this reply seem to have far more reach into the mids and less ability to get as super deep and detailed in the bass. These are like an exaggerated sonic experience when I listen to them. A crazy experience I've never had thus far with bass/high heavy very dynamic music with any of my headphones but I don't have a wild collection in comparison to many people I have read reviews from here. I'm working on that. These for me are also GREAT for video games. They are actually my go to for that now. That being said I don't play online games so I have no need for the precision accuracy of sound placement that people usually say they need, so closed backs work great for me with gaming. Video game sounds and video game music by nature to me is very exaggerated, loud, and exciting and curated to specifically drive the narrative forward so a pair of headphones like these are perfect for that. My all time favorite headphones I have so far are Sennheiser HD 600 and I don't like them at all for gaming. They are very different headphones than these 177x. Just using that as an example of compare/contrast. Next paragraph will explain what I love those for. I very much do some times like headphones that bring out color and have specific characteristics but also sometimes I don't. Depends on what I'm looking for in that moment. I'm in the different headphones for different music genres / experiences camp. A great example is these DT 177x actually. When I listen to my electronic music I want it to be a wild experience. So more of an expressive tuned headphone and less neutral / flat / linear headphone is the tool that will let me have a far more wild experience in that zone and that is exactly what these do. Leading into your question about my recommendation for jazz/folk/world...my Sennheiser HD 600 if I want to really get in and break down and analyze the music. That or the Grado SR325x. When I want to dissect the music but the music doesn't natually have crazy deeeeep electronic detailed lows and super high detailed highs, the HD 600s for sure. I love how they sound with any instrument based music. They still work very well when some of that jazz/folk/world music adds electronic elements but good god damn are they great for me when it's just instruments and voices. ESPECIALLY with a tube amp. For me when I use the HD 600s when I want have access to much more intricate detail than I do with any of my other headphones and when I want to hear the characteristics of the music, dac, and amp. The Grado SR325x are a great second choice. Not at all linear or neutral, not what I use for deep critical music dissection as they do have a sound signature but the party is there with them and to me they sound like this with all types of music I listen to. They're probably my swiss army knife headphones, super fun in all genres but are not a precision instrument for any. For me they make most music more exciting than the Sennheiser HD 600 but they lack the extreme clarity that the HD 600 excel at. So for me the most versatility goes to Grado SR325x by far. Best for jazz/folk/world for me Sennheiser 600. Best for electronic/rap, the DT 177x is untouchable so far for me in this adventure. I will say this...I did just get the Neumann NDH20 a few days ago because I had been reading that it was a neutral even tempered closed back that is great for analyzing and breaking down music and I thought it would be cool to have a second pair to do that along with the HD 600 I have. I listened once for about an hour fresh out of the box and they sounded really even and right up the alley of what I was hoping for. I have been breaking them in for a few days so I'm excited to listen after I finish writing this. If you're looking for closed back headphones that are pretty even across everything, you might want to look for those. They were recommend to me by my friend who has been mixing music for like 20 years. They're what he uses. I hope that all expresses what you were looking for.

Nov 15, 2021

PatswalkerLove the detail and situational application. No worries about the pleasure listening exclusivity boundary you mentioned, I don't expect any (avoiding "audiophile" hahaha) would have musically informed opinions, I just appreciate gut reactions and personal testimonies to base my thinking off of. I appreciate the depth of feedback. Those Grado's look awesome, but they don't look super comfy. Do you find them easy to wear for a while? Congrats on the Senny 6's! I have spent time with those borrowed and love the clarity from my iFi NEO iDSD, but am looking for something that can be a hybrid between a pleasure listener and a mixing set of cans. You have given me great food for thought on these 1770s and I'll be looking further into the Gratos. I don't think I'll do as much looking into the Senny 6's just for 1- musical function (open back=can't record with, mixing can be odd for me too) 2-I like portability/discreetness as I don't want people to hear my music/audio and to be able to walk around immersed so like the close backs for that.

Nov 15, 2021

Bedlam-InsideI didn't think I'd love the Grado's as much as I do comfort wise but I love them so much. They are my first on ear experience and I gotta say, I'm very impressed. They're pretty wild. I've had them on for serious 4-5 hour gaming sessions and I have not had any issues fatigue wise. To me they seem to have a bit of a flavored non-neutral sound but not extreme in any way. I would assume they are far more of a tuned for pleasure sound. Not what I would expect people would mix with but for pure listening, they work great with any and all music types. But you might like mixing with that vibe though! Give them a shot. Headphones.com has 365 day return policy. My gut reaction is if I had to get ride of all my headphones and keep only one I would keep the Grado's over all. They work with everything, are super easy to drive, and respond very well to amplification. They're like a Subaru, they do everything well but nothing perfectly. I like that. That's a keeper for me.

Nov 16, 2021

PatswalkerTuned for pleasure seems about right based on my gut reaction to reading into the phones a bit more. Good thing they're comfy on-ears though, as I haven't had great on-ear experiences in terms of comfort. But hey, that's what Dekoni and companies like that are for, right? You're crackin me up over here I just got me a Subaru for some city-mountain driving and I hear you with that one hahahaha. Definitely TM that lol. I'll have to see if I can demo or borrow from any buddies with them. Good advice!

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