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Fox160
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Aug 3, 2018
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Looks a good spacious 1 person tent just a shame It doesn’t have a 10 inch bathtub floor like my Yama Swiftline 2. Be a good upgrade on next batch run.
Aug 3, 2018
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Aug 3, 2018
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The way I see it, the Swiftline needs the 10" bathtub floor because the fly doesn't come all the way to the ground. So the tall bathtub floor is your only protection against winds, blowing snow, rain splatter etc:
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Whereas the X-Mid has a fly with full coverage. So the fly acts as this barrier, which has the benefit of keeping you warmer and your gear in the vestibules a lot more protected from rain/snow. I see this as a better approach.
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The strategy of chopping the fly so that it doesn't come all the way to the ground and then increasing the height of the bathtub floor to make that up, is a way to save weight because the circumference of the inner is less than the circumference of the fly, but it comes with performance downsides (more breezy, more confined feel, vestibule gear can get wet, snow blows into vestibules). Even with a tall bathtub, you're going to feel more wind in the Swiftline than the X-Mid. So I like a full coverage fly, particularly one that you can still pitch the fly elevated if you want via longer cord at the corners.
Aside from the arguments for an entirely solid fabric fly (warmer, even less breeze) I don't see a functional advantage to having a taller bathtub floor. It would give the tent a more confined feel. What are your reasons for wanting a taller bathtub? Are they ones that a full coverage fly addresses?
Aug 3, 2018
Fox160
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Aug 3, 2018
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Hi Dan should have said I am in the UK and weather including wind can change many times through the day and eve and night , I hear what you are saying just that when I leave a porch/door open I don’t feel a breeze hitting me in the face and would like this shelter for myself.
Aug 3, 2018
Fox160
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Aug 3, 2018
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On the Swiftline I can lower it too
Aug 3, 2018
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Aug 3, 2018
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Fair enough that a higher bathtub would stop breezes when the doors are open. Would you like a full solid fabric inner? I like those in the winter, but perhaps you still want some mesh.
Aug 3, 2018
Fox160
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Aug 3, 2018
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very good idea if you offer both interiors, will a great offer and alot will be bought in the UK : )
Aug 3, 2018
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Aug 3, 2018
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Okay I'll keep it in mind. We don't have the capacity to do that for the first run, but eventually it would be nice to do.
Aug 3, 2018
SiLondon
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Sep 10, 2018
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If the solid inner is ever available (yes please!!), it would be nice to buy this alone, having joined the Massdrop for the X-Mid. Looking forward to receiving the shelter next May.
Sep 10, 2018
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Sep 10, 2018
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Thanks for the support. I hope we can do a solid inner in future productions runs, and if so, it would be nice to offer the solid inner alone. I'll keep it in mind and see what we can do.
Sep 10, 2018
SiLondon
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Sep 10, 2018
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Re. posts further up - I think a solid fabric sides and top with no-see-um nearer the top for viewing the horrible UK weather scene when at seated height.
Sep 10, 2018
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Sep 10, 2018
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking - basically all solid fabric for the inner except for the top 1/3 of the door walls.
Sep 10, 2018
DannyRP
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Sep 28, 2018
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I'm in the drop. If a 'winter' inner with mostly fabric and some sections of mesh in the upper doors was offered later as an additional accessory I'd 100% buy it.
Sep 28, 2018
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Sep 28, 2018
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Thanks Danny. I'm hoping to offer that option eventually, but for the next production run which is probably 1 year behind the first run.
Sep 28, 2018
DannyRP
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Sep 28, 2018
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Awesome. Please offer it as an inner only option for us buyers from the 1st production.
Sep 28, 2018
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Sep 28, 2018
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When the time comes, I'll definitely try to do this.
Sep 28, 2018
Dsands
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Feb 18, 2019
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Yes please please please make it happen Dan.
Feb 18, 2019
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Feb 18, 2019
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The upcoming X-Mid 2P will have a solid inner. Assuming this is sufficiently popular, future runs of the 1P will have a solid inner option as well, so I expect we will be also able to offer these separately. We found a really nice fabric for the inner that is hardy heavier than mesh. It adds about 0.5oz / 14 grams.
Feb 18, 2019
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