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Coldluke
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May 18, 2019
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@dandurston I made a boo boo. A peg came out (maybe I forgot to put the peg all the way in) so a pole feel over I put it back up but not into the eyelet and so punctured a hole into my tent :'(
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The black material on the other side did not get a puncture. How should I repair this? How strong is the rip stop? How much have a buggered my tent? Note that taping the green material from the inside, is hard because the black material is in the way. I could try to get some k tape or tenacious tape insert it behind the hole, with tweezers and patience. help me obi-wan @dandurston https://imgur.com/a/peELRvj
May 18, 2019
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Dan Durston
May 19, 2019
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ColdlukeSorry to hear about these troubles. Indeed an unsecured trekking pole tip can cause problems. The black material (210D nylon) is primarily there for abrasion resistance (e.g. if a pole is pitched handle up, or if the tip rubs a bit on the top through the grommet) rather than to handle sharp pressure points like an unsecured pole tip. If there is an unsecured trekking pole tip, what can occur - as you found - is that the black material is tougher and has more stretch, so it can conform to the sharp tip whereas the outer green fly material has less stretch, so it can split over that same pressure point. Thus there can be damage to the green material while the underlying 210D black nylon is fine. The good news is that the the tent is still structurally fine. That rip in your green material isn't going to reduce the strength of the peak area in the future because under normal use all the key components are intact (grommet, webbing, where the webbing is sewn to the fly) and because the main stresses on the fly fabric near the peaks run along the rolled seams which are much stronger than a single layer and still intact. So structurally the tent should be fine if the pole is used back in the grommet. Of course there are concerns about waterproofness with damage like this, so obviously you'll want to repair the hole. To do so, the inside of the green material has a PU coating and many tapes (such as Tenacious Tape) will stick. What I recommend is to close the rip with either a strip of tape on the inside (carefully with tweezers) or a few hand stitches to hold it shut, and then apply a sealant on the outside to really glue it back together. The outside of the green material has a silicone coating, so most tapes don't stick. You pretty much need to use liquid silicone as sort of a glue. You can apply straight silicone (e.g. silicone caulk from a hardware store), or dilute that with mineral spirits so it paints on easier and will seep in and reinforce stitching if you used some. Likely the easiest is to buy it pre-diluted from a gear shop as a product called SilNet. So a quick solution is to put a little tape on the back to hold it shut, and then glue it shut on the outside with either silicone caulk or SilNet. If you carefully hand stitched it shut that would likely be a bit stronger than tape on the back and it would give the sealant more to bond to, so that's likely ideal but probably not needed. I have a few more comments at the link below on this topic. There I mention that you can beef it up further if you cannonbalize a bit of extra green material from somewhat (e.g. the stake sack) and then use diluted silicone to glue that on as basically a patch. You could repair it as a described above, and then if you still don't feel good about it then add the external green patch. https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-dan-durston-x-mid-1p-tent/talk/2413720
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May 19, 2019
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