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bojjasainath
3
Sep 16, 2020
love my tent however, any ideas on how to make the net pitch by itself ?
bojjasainathThe quick way to do it is to remove the peak guylines off the fly and tie them to the inner peaks (below the buckles). Then with those guylines you can add your poles (e.g. tie a loop or clove hitch around the tip) and stake those out. A more elegant way to do it is have a second set of the same peak buckles pre-rigged with cord and maybe even a grommet (for the pole tip) and tensioner (to fine tune). There was a fellow selling these buckles until recently but he's sold out. I'm planning to make them available on my website (DurstonGear.com) sometime this winter but I'm still figuring that out. Not sure if I'll only offer the buckles, or a more complete kit with grommets, tensioners, cord etc. For now, you can buy them at the link below but shipping is kinda expensive: https://www.shelbyoutdoor.com/product_info.php?products_id=2821&language=en
Sweetjond
68
Sep 18, 2020
dandurstonLet me know if I can help in any way, eg researching parts, testing, recording a demo video, whatever. I just pitched inner only for the first time and it’s not too tricky but I can see how a thoughtful kit of matched parts could really open up this option to lots more people. You’ve got a fair-sized market of XMid owners to sell to at this point!
SweetjondIt would be pretty easy to sell buckles and cord, but I think it would be better to create a full solution where there is a buckle with a bit of webbing, grommet for the pole, cord, and tensioner to adjust the cord. Like that, you could clip it right to the peak without any knots etc. That's a pretty simple thing to sew, but the main challenge is to find someone who could build it. I'm not sure if our tent factory would to bother with a small order like that (maybe 100 $10 kits). I might have to find a small cottage shop that would do this. So the first step is finding a good place to get these built.
Sweetjond
68
Sep 18, 2020
dandurstonDid you happen to have a few cottage producers in mind to start with? I’d be happy to reach out to them (and the existing XMid manufacturer if you like) to see if they’d have rough guidance on MOQ, unit price, etc without an RFQ. Otherwise I can probably find a few myself. If they’re not talkative without some form of RFQ, I can figure out what’s needed and rough out what I can before bugging you for details on requirements.
Sweetjond
68
Sep 18, 2020
dandurstonActually, I’m probably overthinking this. You need to join a grommet, buckle and cord to the strip of webbing, and the only tricky skill there is sewing the grommet & buckle securely. The rest could be unskilled labor. For the first 100 units, I wonder if a local seamstress could do the tricky bit for under $5 and then you could get friends help you assemble the first 50 kits (attach cord and tensioner, drop in a bag with instruction card) while watching a movie. Or I could recruit my kids! ;-)
bojjasainath
3
Sep 23, 2020
Sweetjond@dandurston @Sweetjond thank you for the ideas, a prebuilt kit would be awesome. I will try to see if i can use the spare parts i have from a bag, don't have grommets but they have buckles. will report on how this goes