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I needed a pair of closed headphones for family peace purposes, and these fit the bill. i had to change the pads almost immediately, as the stock pads had the drivers actually touching my ears. I tried a couple of things but ended up with a pair of Dekoni skeepskin pads meant for AT M-50x. They’re a tiny bit too big, but they stay on and I’m really happy with the result. Nice sound stage and and really warm and lovely sound. Very easy to drive with a phone. With the new pads I can happily wear them for hours.