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Will
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Chief Product Officer
Apr 11, 2017
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Hey Everyone,
Thanks for your interest in this collaboration! It’s one of the most exciting for our team because it represents our first step into knife collaborations. This product is also exciting because it’s a three way collaboration between Massdrop, Ferrum Forge, and WE Knife Co. We’ve covered the Massdrop and Ferrum Forge parts extensively in the description, but we know country of origin is a VERY popular discussion topic on all knife drops (brought up in 90%+ of knife discussions) so we’d like to address it. This knife is designed in California and made in China by WE Knife.
Founded in 2000, WE Knife is located in Yangjiang City in the Guangdong Province of China, an area famous for making knives, kitchen sets, and other hardware. After 14 years of producing products for other brands as an unnamed manufacturing partner, the company sharpened its focus on precision knife making and changed its name to WE Knife in 2014.
WE Knife has been on the forefront of innovation ever since, setting a new standard for manufacturing in a country that’s often misperceived as having a low bar for quality. Thanks to a professional research and development team, high-quality CNC machines, electric discharge machines, laser-engraving machines, titanium anodizers, and more than 100 carefully selected staff members, WE Knife manufacturers knives at the highest tolerances. The result is enduring, near-custom knife quality that american designers are excited to associate with their name.
All this is great, but as LeVar Burton used to tell us on Reading Rainbow, you don’t have to take my word for it. Here’s a few words from Chris and Elliot at Ferrum Forge that talk about why we’re working with WE:
“The decision to go with WE Knives was very daunting for us and came at the end of an exhaustive search for a manufacturer that could produce the precision we need to see as knife Makers. WE Knives blew us away with their capability to produce the level of quality and precision that we demand and is necessary to make our designs. They have the precision machinery, professionalism, and the experienced team necessary to build high quality knives that broke our presuppositions about Chinese manufacturing quality and gave us the utmost confidence that WE Knives is the best option to bring the Falcon to life” - Chris and Elliot of Ferrum Forge
Finally, a quick reminder that the Falcon will be serialized, and the first 400 purchasers are guaranteed a serial number below 500.
Thanks again for your interest in this drop and don't hesitate to respond to this post with questions. I’ll be here to answer throughout this pre-launch period and at various points during the drop.
Apr 11, 2017
Bryce185
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May 17, 2017
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i purchased mine in april.. when are these supposed to actually ship?
May 17, 2017
PigmonkeY
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May 17, 2017
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Some time in November.
May 17, 2017
MDDoge
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May 17, 2017
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They still need to be made (or at least some of the order does) so November.
May 17, 2017
PigmonkeY
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May 17, 2017
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I don't think production has even started yet.
May 17, 2017
MDDoge
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May 17, 2017
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I wouldn't doubt it. Wouldn't make sense to start until the whole sale is confirmed.
May 17, 2017
Will
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Chief Product Officer
May 17, 2017
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While production has yet to start, WE has been following the campaign and placing material orders along the way. We can't promise a change to the ship date, but we're doing everything we can to limit the wait time.
May 17, 2017
MDDoge
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May 17, 2017
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I'm completely fine with waiting until November, but thanks for being proactive and informative. It's also good to hear that WE is committed to production, I hadn't even thought about the steps prior to machining that they've already taken.
May 17, 2017
anonomous
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May 31, 2017
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Will, can you guys sign up at bladeforums. thats a real knife community and it could really benifit massdrop by having real knife people vote for better knives than the stuff you already provide... not to mention bring traffic to massdrop and bladeforums here's an example of the pain we are dealing with over there. infractions because you guys are not paid members... at undoubtedly the largest knife forum around (next to USN) http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/massdrop.1495562/
May 31, 2017
TF_Spider
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Jun 20, 2017
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Hi Will. Is it possible to switch my purchase to the Crux instead of the Falcon?
Jun 20, 2017
it-man
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Jun 30, 2017
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Thanks for the update. If we hot regular emails would be great!
Jun 30, 2017
Oneoddnut
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Jul 7, 2017
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How do I find out if I'm one of the lucky 400? I know that I got in on the drop on the first day.
Jul 7, 2017
it-man
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Jul 7, 2017
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Hi, ask massdrop.
Jul 7, 2017
Hellreaver
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Aug 23, 2017
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Learn to read
Aug 23, 2017
tlblakburne
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Aug 29, 2017
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😂😂😂
Aug 29, 2017
gustafari
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Sep 22, 2017
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Just received my knife today and thought I'd post my initial impressions. The fit and finish on the knife is spot on. The back spacer is nicely flush. Blade centering is right on. The blade grind is even. The blade is nice and sharp, cutting through newspaper exceptionally smoothly. The action is snappy either by light switching or push buttoning. The blade cannot be opened one handed with a thumb flip using the cut out in the blade. It can be opened one handed using a pinch grip on the blade cut out. It can be easily opened two handed. The blade easily clears the detent ball upon closing without having to reposition my thumb on the lock bar. The knife has some heft to it but is nicely balanced in hand. The balance centers on the finger choil when open. I can fit a three and a half finger grip when not using the finger choil. Half of my pinky hangs off the beak of the handle. With the choil I can easily get a full four finger grip. Access to the lock bar could be better to ease in fully releasing the lock bar and especially the detent ball from the blade. The detent ball sits prouder than I've seen on any of my other knives. Not sure if this was a contributing factor to another member's detent ball falling loose. The clip is terrible. It has too much clamping force. Because of this it takes two hands to clip into shorts or jeans pockets. The clip is also machined way too thin. I figure it was done to give the machined clip some spring for retention, but it goes too far. Poor design decision. I can see why one member has already had their clip bend back on them. All in all a good knife.
Sep 22, 2017
MDDoge
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Sep 22, 2017
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Haha, I just came here to post about my detent ball falling loose. Or rather blasting it's way out of my knife during a flip, and shooting like a tiny cannon ball into my side. Despite it's small size it almost hurt. This is mildly annoying since I've had it only a week, but mostly just amusing. Now to find out if it's possible to acquire a replacement lockbar insert and detent ball.
Sep 22, 2017
anonomous
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Sep 22, 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SglnbYDA8-8
i wish it were that easy. mine sucks because of the detent. mine and a bunch of other peoples will probably fall out eventually since they are so tough and raised out of the lockbar. its really annoying to me.
Ive been recently been hearing alot about we knives and detent balls falling out. seems to be a quality issue that they need to focus on. i wont buy anymore we knives. including the gent because of the way i got my Falcon.
i do have to say tho, i like the Falcon as a left hand knife more than right hand knife. but that detent is what really is killing me here. @Will whats the take on returns or replacements because of crappy detents? mines not inserted deep enough, its really hard to deploy and it most likely will pop out like the above guys did.
also looking ahead, can you talk to we knives about this issue. as its happened on a few other we knives models. would suck to keep happening on the massdrop ones.
Sep 22, 2017
JonasHeineman
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Sep 22, 2017
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Sorry to hear that, but thanks for letting us know - Massdrop and WE Knife have you covered with a warranty. In fact, the replacement parts just arrived here so they could be sorted and prepared for our support team. If you can please file a help ticket in My Transactions of your user profile, we'll get it taken care of ASAP. https://www.massdrop.com/transactions
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Sep 22, 2017
JonasHeineman
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Sep 22, 2017
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We're bummed that yours wasn't perfect out of the box, but we do have a warranty for this and replacement parts available from WE Knife. For service, return, or exchange requests, just go to https://www.massdrop.com/transactions
Thanks for letting us know - we will report all of this to WE Knife, once we have more information on the number of support tickets that we get over the coming weeks; so far, it is a very small percentage. Hope that helps.
Sep 22, 2017
Massdrppr
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Sep 22, 2017
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Excited that the Falcon will ship early! Is there an option to pay a little more for a faster shipping option? My experience has been, "shipped 9/14, arrive 9/29." I could be patient but too excited for my new edc!
Sep 22, 2017
tlblakburne
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Sep 22, 2017
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I feel your pain. I drive truck long haul, and won't have my Falcon in hand until I'm home at the end of October. Now to find out that I may need to go through a quality control issue with them. Still, I'm itching to get mine in my hands.
Sep 22, 2017
anonomous
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Sep 23, 2017
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Lots of knives will have issues. I have a zt0850 that I need to get warranty work done. It rattles and deploys with light movement. Ugh, 300$knife too. So sad. But it's how mass production knives are. Too bad too.
Sep 23, 2017
tlblakburne
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Sep 23, 2017
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Yes, and WE knives had a heck of an order to complete on this one. Given, I'd gladly wait to the original shipping date for a more thorough issue-free product. But I'm easy to please 😂
Sep 23, 2017
elnero
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Sep 28, 2017
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Hi JonasHeineman, first off I'd like to say that my Falcon has very quickly become a favourite. The action on mine is quite good and I love just sitting and flipping it, close, repeat.
On the downside, a few days ago when I was walking down the sidewalk I moved out of the way for a group of people and ended up scraping up my pocket clip on a concrete wall. I was really disappointed because it was only a couple of days old so I contacted support to enquire about purchasing a replacement. I was told you don't sell individual replacement parts and it was then suggested that I request the drop again so I can buy a new knife. That's a bit unrealistic just to get a new pocket clip. It also has me concerned that we can't purchase any replacement parts for these Massdrop produced collaboration knives and makes me more hesitant in considering future drops of this sort.
Sep 28, 2017
anonomous
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Sep 28, 2017
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You can more than likely send it to a modder and get the scratches fixed in one way or another. Bunch of modders in the knife world. Or just live with the scratchs. It happens. It sucks when they cost a lot more and it scratches. But it's a tool, bound to happen. Use it.
Some companies have replacement parts for sale. but even then, not for its lifetime unless it's the same clip as one that's currently in production or the generic steel clip. Doesn't bother me cause I'd just upgrade to something custom. Carbon fiber clip would look really good on it, heck even mokuti titanium clip. But I see the concern. The parts they have are for warranty service. So they need them for that.
Sep 28, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Sep 28, 2017
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In comparison to steel, titanium is pretty soft. This will happen when you scrape it by MOST surfaces. It's not really scratching the surface so much as damaging the sandblast finish. Those matte sandblast finishes on titanium knives ALWAYS scratch up in fairly short order.
Sep 28, 2017
elnero
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Sep 28, 2017
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Yeah, scratches was maybe not the right word to use. I carry and use my knives so scratches are expected. This was more of a few deeper gouges. I was in the process of working on taking some pics of the knife so I would have liked to have an unmarred clip. It's not a huge deal but I was surprised that some common parts like this won't be available outside of warranty issues.
Sep 28, 2017
Johnsliva
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Oct 7, 2017
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After 6 months and 125 dollars all I can say is what a disappointment. 1st it looks and feels tiny, 2nd it still had shavings on it, almost looked plastic, 3rd seems too much space inside for a small knife, I know the back is thick but they could have tapered the back channel toward the tip. A good 50 dollar knife not 125. It will not replace my cold steel as an everyday carry or get an honored space in my knife bag. I will stick to my mucusta's and kizer's which have been awesome. Not so much here.
Oct 7, 2017
Hellreaver
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Oct 9, 2017
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Haha super great review. I'll buy it off ya for $50
Oct 9, 2017
Hellreaver
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Oct 9, 2017
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Same. It's so sad.
Oct 9, 2017
JonasHeineman
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Oct 10, 2017
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FWIW - I was literally at the Mcusta factory in Seki yesterday, where I showed them the Falcon and they asked to keep one because they were so impressed. In particular, they were intrigued by the detent and action (they don't make flippers...yet), and were blown away by the selling price. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and I'm sorry that you were not as impressed as others have been. Thanks for the feedback anyway.
Oct 10, 2017
it-man
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Oct 11, 2017
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Thats a shame, I am waiting for mine ... hope I do not have similar issues.
Oct 11, 2017
Johnsliva
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Oct 11, 2017
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If it were 2 inches bigger I would be in love. The action is smooth as butter and the steel is sweet. I wont use it as an edc as it is too small and i would lose it in a week. The quality is top notch but for me size does matter. It is like being teased with one shrimp on the appetizer, I just wanted more :). As a reference I use the cold steel code 4 as my EDC. Slim, built like a tank and sharp, willing to do what ever I throw at it. I guess I prefer the practicality of the f150 pickup over BMW weekender in the garage. Now if FF and WE come out with a larger knife, or with sexy wooden inlays, or an awesome Damascus blade, that goes in the display case :)
Oct 11, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 11, 2017
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Did you miss the Crux drop?
Also, did you not see the specs on the knife before you bought it, or just thought you'd try something smaller and couldn't get down with it?
Oct 11, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 11, 2017
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I wanted a small knife I just didn't expect it to be bad to use in such a small knife. I have others this small that are not bad to flip or use. I just feel it was a poor design at least in my use. Also doesn't help I got a bad detent that is so stiff. Maybe once I send it in to repair that, maybe it will change my mind. The detent issue ruins it for me on this design. But will give it another go after it's fixed.
Oct 11, 2017
TylerDurden333
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Oct 12, 2017
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I love mine. I love it so much I am thinking about buying another one for a gift or just to have. Massdrop really hit a home run with this knife. 100% satisfied on price and product.
Oct 12, 2017
TylerDurden333
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Oct 12, 2017
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I'll give you $60
Oct 12, 2017
EkimSnevig
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Oct 13, 2017
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Agree - six months, $125 for this? Won’t even come close to being anywhere but in the original box in storage. Massdrop did better on this one than the joke of a Fidget Spinner they partnered with RAMA to build, but I am still walking away a bit disappointed that I spent the money on this underwhelming knife.
Oct 13, 2017
Viajames
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Oct 14, 2017
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I’d be happy to buy from you if your interested (or anyone with a sub 400 #) contact me @ viajamss AT yahoo thanks!
Oct 14, 2017
Hellreaver
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Oct 14, 2017
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To each their own, I guess. I just find it weird that 99 percent of the people who have handled this knife, including people who have handled $2000+ full customs, were impressed not only with the price, but with the knife as a whole.
Oct 14, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 14, 2017
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I think we got exactly what we paid for. The thing is half the price of the WE 605, which is obviously what this knife is based on, with a lot less machinework. What do you want for 120 bucks? You can't even get a benchmade 940 for that anymore.
Oct 14, 2017
Hellreaver
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Oct 15, 2017
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It's not based off of the we... They've already denied that. Even if they hadn't, they don't look the same.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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Get your eyes checked and look again.
Oct 15, 2017
Hellreaver
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Oct 15, 2017
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20/15 in both eyes, thanks for your concern. Ferrum Forge is a company that researches and experiments to test individual combinations of blade steel and lockbar insert steel to see how they interact. They don't just see another knife maker's knife and say 'yep, good enough.'
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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look at the two knives next to eachother. The falcon is the 605 with less machine work. Massdrop and co SAY a lot of things, don't take it as gospel. For instance, they said the massdrop minimic had been tested and quality controlled. We know this isn't the case.
Oct 15, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 15, 2017
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This is not an impressive knife and FF is not God's gift to knife making. Lol that's some funny claims. This is Not a bad knife. It most certainly is based around the 605.
Some of you folks need a reality check.
I have an assortment of knives from many manufacturers and this one is better than the cheapest junk and is a good knife for $100-125. I prefer knives ranging in the $200+ range.
But impressive it is not.
In fact if it was any more than 125 it would cost too much and not be priced in its price range anymore.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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Compare this to value for money for Benchmade 940's now. It's pretty impressive by the big 3's (kershaw, spyderco, and benchmade) standards as far as what you get.
Oct 15, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 15, 2017
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Nope. I have both spyderco and benchmades and they are better in every way. As for value I think your getting good value for 125. But it's really not comparable to halo knives of other brands. Not even close.
Sure your getting titanium s35vn and bearings... But that doesn't mean squat in comparison to other knives. So much more in knives than just materials.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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go look at literally anything with titanium from benchmade. Starting price of 500 dollars, and benchmade's quality control is less than stellar. MAP price increases across the board with Benchmade and Spyderco over the last few years in order to combat the new makers who are giving them serious runs for their money (or at least not astronomically overpricing everything because of the brand [lookin' at you spyderco post-2010]).
I haven't purchased anything from benchmade or spyderco in years because they keep pushing boring overpriced designs. Especially spyderco making the same exact leaf blade in 30000 different versions, each one fitting in your pocket more awkwardly than the last.
In my opinion, benchmade and spyderco especially have become nothing more than overpriced pocket jewelery producers. Back when you could get a 940 for 100ish bucks, they were a bargain...good luck finding ones under 190-200 after tax now. Most of the halo knives of either brand are just gussied up versions of production models (see, benchmade gold class) that they've already been making for years.
Oct 15, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 15, 2017
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And every day I leave the house I take something other than the Falcon including the poor benchmades which are indeed over priced and poor qc. They are just a better knife than this is. Despite the issues you bring up.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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"just a better knife than this" - but you can't quantify it. Comes down to personal preference at the end of the day. I'm just trying to argue that the value for money is right on, and as good or better than a lot of higher end offerings from the big 3.
Oct 15, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 15, 2017
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I have a real steel megalodon 2017 in m390 that was had for 125$ on sale. That knife is impressive. Like really really impressive. For $200 it's really really impressive. It's design is a major proponent of that. Then to add roller bearings and m390 and titanium scales just tops it off.
This Falcon is not a good design. My fingers prevent the lockbar from opening at times, my detent is too far out so I cannot finger flick it. The fit in hand is fine when choked up choil otherwise it's uncomfortable. The blade shape is great tho. The handle is where it falls flat. Not to mention the loctite in mine that stripped my wiha torx. The free spinning pivot and back spacer screws. Heck even nick Shabazz gave this as a negative in the real ff made knife. Yet we knives has the capability to do it right and they don't follow through with improving. I also don't really like the chalk like feeling of the titanium texture. I could probably go on. But for the price it's not terrible at all. Just poor design in my eyes. All the small knives I have, I rather use them than this. They just work.
Anyone who wants a small knife but doesn't like this one... Try the zt 0450cf. Excellent value, excellent detent, usa made, excellent materials (even non cf version) etc.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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hah, i stripped 4 wiha torx bits on the thing before disassembling it on the other side. screw head stripped from the factory. No problems with lockbar (lefty). As far as the sandblast titanium finish, that wears down after a week or two in the pocket, knife becomes very smooth overall.
as far as "well it had a stripped screw from the factory and they don't care to improve"
I can pick 2 spyderco's out of my collection that came with chips in the blade (yojimbo 2 CF S90V, manix 2 XL), and a benchmade with the tip unevenly ground (presidio). Both companies refused warranty service.
Oct 15, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 15, 2017
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Lol benchmade and spyderco have free sharpening. And will fix issues too. Not sure if your just lying or not. I haven't heard one review where they wouldn't sharpen a blade. In fact you can even pay benchmade for a new blade if you ever needed to.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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The issue with the yo2 was that the blade stop was improperly ground, causing the blade to strike a barrel spacer when closed. This wasn't immediately obvious when i got the knife, and when I went for warranty they claimed I'd damaged the blade.
I ended up having to remedy it myself by filing a channel in one of the barrel spacers and sharpening the chip out myself.
As far as the presidio, it's long gone, but literally one side of the tip was completely unground. It was coated and everything, just unground. Got it returned from warranty twice saying nothing was wrong.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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#top tier halo knives
A high end special edition, even. Spyderco and Benchmade are just as janky as any other knifemaker. So go ahead and call me out for being a liar again. I'd say the same for you claiming benchmade and spyderco are without fault and perfect.
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Oct 15, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 15, 2017
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So? Sounds like something was lost in translation. They would have covered that.
In any case. I have a smoke ts1 by Boos Blades. It's an extremely impressive knife especially for the price. It came to everyone with poor grind. We knives won't fix that. I just sharpened it myself on the edge pro. But despite that it's far more impressive than this Falcon even at $45 more.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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“They would have covered that”
except they didn’t. I think we’re done here.
Oct 15, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 15, 2017
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So one report of warranty denial is how they do services for everyone? And because of your few issues the Falcon is the best knife in the world? Because of its materials only and the price it's the best? Please. We are done here.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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If i spend 300 dollars on a knife, it had better be perfect. If it's not, they'd better fix the issue. Especially a "halo knife" from a "top tier manufacturer". That was your whole argument before, but now you've changed it to fit your position better, since the other one didn't work out for you.
I never said the falcon was "the best knife in the world" you put those words in my mouth.
We're done.
Oct 15, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 15, 2017
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I didn't change anything. Knives at 500 aren't going to be perfect every time. Yes benchmade suck at qc and I won't buy more because of it, but at a design perspective the Falcon falls flat. I'd choose a benchmade.
My Falcon has a defective detent. I haven't sent it in yet, I'm super busy with life. I'm eating lunch while arguing with you. This is a common issue with we knives as of recently (detent issues) and replacing detents isn't easy without getting more problems as I posted a video about it somewhere in this thread. I'm really not happy about that. I don't like sending knives in like you.
Hell I have a zt 0850 which is over 300$ and it needs warranty work. It rattling when you shake it and flips out with light pressure it's very unsafe. I've asked around and no one else has these issues or they just keep them in a safe. It sucks but happens. Pretty sure they will fix it tho. The design of this knife is also not perfect at the price they are offering I'm not happy but despite the issues I have with it I still like to carry it.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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I just found the correspondance from my YO2 warranty issues.
yeah, they denied me warranty service because i had disassembled the knife to find out what the problem was. This was before their policy change, but it's still absolute bullshit.
Oct 15, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 15, 2017
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That's what I thought tbo. And that does suck. But if that's part of the warranty and you broke it... That's not their fault. Yes I agree that sucks tho. I'm glad spyderco changed that. In fact I spoke to Sal about that and got others to talk to him about it. Shortly after they changed the warranty. They no longer use red loctite and no longer deny warranty for disassembly. The problem was that more people service there knives and ran into issues because of the loctite stripping screws. Tbo they should have used high heat to remove them but how were they supposed to know.
Oct 15, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 15, 2017
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Yeah man, but this is the kind of stuff you find for 75 dollars at the spyderco factory seconds sale. Prior to that experience, I had never had any company deny me warranty for dissasembly.
Oct 15, 2017
MrBlackoutvader
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Oct 20, 2017
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I bought this knife thru another buyer on here. im having issue with the pocket clip.... it’s bending already do you have a replacement clip and screws since the one is locked in there.... looks like they used red loctie, would like a clip that address this overlooked issue? The knife itself should be still covered. This is the only thing that has disappointed me in this. If it’s not covered by warranty can I buy one?
Oct 20, 2017
JonasHeineman
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Oct 20, 2017
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Any support claims would have to be submitted through our normal process (Profile -> My Transactions -> Contact Support). If you don't have a transaction record for this bc youre no the original buyer, you will have to visit our help page and email our team. The manufacturer doesn't use anything strong as red loctite, I don't understand how that relates to the clip from your description, but regardless you will have to relate all this to the right folks and provide photos, and also TBH I'm not really sure what our policy is for warranty if you don't have a receipt. We don't have parts for sale currently, but we've had some requests for clips to be made available.
Oct 20, 2017
Hackenslash
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Oct 20, 2017
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Jonas, do you know if the clip for the upcoming Crux would fit the Falcon? From comparing pictures, it appears to be the same style/screw offset but a little longer, solving a couple of the most common complaints with the Falcon clip. If such is the case, MD might be able to request extra clips from the Crux run that could serve as replacements on the Falcon. Thanks!
Oct 20, 2017
MrBlackoutvader
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Oct 20, 2017
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screw relates to this because if I plan On replacing the pocket clip I would have to remove it and I can’t budge the screw so either the cross threaded it or used something stronger then blue. It won’t come off. as for the clip.... it’s so thin in the middle that is bends with zero effort. It was in my front pocket clipped and I sat down and it bent.... poor design for a clip to be this fradgil. I know others are having the same issue as I am. This is not a new as I see in the threads here. I just figured you’d want your product the best for customers. Most knife companies honor the warranty with the knife not the original buyer
Oct 20, 2017
anonomous
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Oct 20, 2017
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Agreed whatever thread locker they are using its annoying. Please use blue instead.
Oct 20, 2017
MrBlackoutvader
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Oct 20, 2017
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Thank you! Glad I’m not the only one with this issue
Oct 20, 2017
EricWilmanns
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Oct 21, 2017
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Hi Will - this is three days into wearing clothes carrying - what can I do?
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Oct 21, 2017
bkirby
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Oct 21, 2017
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damn that sucks bro. thats a thin piece of titanium it really thins out in the middle of the clip. poor design
Oct 21, 2017
Bflying
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Oct 21, 2017
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This is one of my primary concerns with this knife. I'm sure it's not a matter of, if my clip bends, but when. It already slips in and out of my jeans pocket as if there is little to no tension. Not what I wanted to see so early in its EDC life. Unfortunate, because I've really been digging this knife. No need for another safe queen, it's definitely a user.
Oct 21, 2017
rantng
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Oct 22, 2017
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What is the bottom knife?
Oct 22, 2017
Massdrppr
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Oct 22, 2017
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Will, the clip on my falcon is beginning to lose its tension. It seems I’m having similar issues as many of the other Falcon orders. That said, are there any plans of correcting this with the Crux? If so, could I get an extra Crux clip with my order? I’d like to replace the clip on the falcon. Off topic, but does anyone own a custom FF? I bought the MD collaboration before I purchased a true FF custom... But the clip design isn’t very promising if it’s a FF design flaw. Please share your FF custom experienc.
thanks!
Oct 22, 2017
VipeX
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Oct 28, 2017
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I do own a FF Septer but the clip is a different design, never lost its tension.
The Falcon on the other hand....you might snap the pocket clip if you bend it more than the thickness of your jeans.
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Oct 28, 2017
PigmonkeY
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Oct 28, 2017
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Flat sprung titanium or steel is a way better clip material than CNC titanium. (IMO spring steel is actually the best, performance wise)
Oct 28, 2017
bkirby
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Oct 29, 2017
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Will, will you be ignoring the design flawed pocket clips or will there be a redesign/fix?
Oct 29, 2017
Massdrppr
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Oct 29, 2017
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That Septer is a beauty! Thanks for sharing! still begs the question on why Massdrop/FF isn’t planning on fixing the flaw with the Falcon/Crux! can They create a clip like the septer?
Oct 29, 2017
Trilobites
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Oct 29, 2017
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"Ignore" because it will cost them to fix. Too bad for the early adopters or guinea pigs.
Oct 29, 2017
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