Massdrop x Fitsok Mountain Crew Socks (2-Pack) Discussions | Drop

Oct 4, 2018

Why so expensive for only a two pack? A 7 pack is about 10 over here and they're pure wool, not a blend.

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Username931235324

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Oct 12, 2018

SDanteYou can get a 7 pack of wool socks where you live for $10?

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Oct 12, 2018

Username931235324Yea, or you can buy cheap socks and get more. Socks are cheap.

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Calaverasgrande

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Nov 13, 2018

SDanteshenanigans. Pure wool socks are only that cheap if they are made in China and actually acrylic.

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Nov 14, 2018

CalaverasgrandePure wool socks are expensive in the US, but that's mainly due to the economy and the high markups over there. In Australia and New Zealand have made a lot of wool since colonial era. When you have a lot of wool, reasonable pricing and sensible taxation laws, you end up with pure wool socks at good prices. We do export a lot of our products to the US, so you can always buy our socks.

Nov 20, 2018

CalaverasgrandeAlso, I think you're confusing shenanigans with malarkey. I've a fine shillelagh if you're interested in some shenanigans, but you'll end up with more than just a wee neenty before we get back on the black stuff.

Dec 24, 2018

SDantePure wool socks are not as durable as those blended with other fabrics/fibers like nylon, polyester, acrylic and polypropylene! The blend of different fabrics/fibers actually enhances the performance, comfort, blister control, moisture management, and wicking properties. Socks also stay up on the leg much better when theri is some Lycra or Spandex blended into the other fabric/fibers. The density of the knitting also plays a large factor in the durability and comfort of the sock.

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Dec 24, 2018

MsilverhammerSocks stay up on the legs if you wear the right size, use sock suspenders, or ,like you say, introduce less costly materials. I have a pair of all wool from when I was at school, they don't fit any more so now they just hold soap to keep my other socks dry and smelling fresh. I only managed to get 12 years out of them before they didn't fit (didn't wear out though, if you want a pic of my old socks). Pure wool breathes well, it is form fitting, repels water, isn't eaten away my methyls like many synthetics are, has a good resistance rating, is fire proof, is warm even if it is wet, can be woven coarse or fine, doesn't cause blisters if you wear the right shoes (synthetic can cause blisters in well fitted shoes), they last way longer than your shoes will and only a fool can't repair an all wool sock if necessary. Synthetics have their place, but if you actually wear boots and don't live in air con then you use all wool. If you get more than a decade, without holes, from your synthetic socks, let me know. Going bush sometimes means you need to have your socks over your pants anyway, which would massacre any elastic. If you have trouble keeping your socks pulled up, it's either your shoes, socks or legs are misshapen in some manner. Buy sock garters, they have been popular with American men for centuries. Either way, these are overpriced. Some of those chems you spiel shouldn't be in socks anyway.

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Dec 24, 2018

SDanteNo doubt that Wool is a great fabric, but it can be enhanced, blended, and interwoven like I stated with other synthetic, and natural fibers like antimicrobial Silver in the case of the socks offered in this drop; and other fibers like Bamboo, Silk, Yak wool, Alpaca wool, Viscose, Rayon, Olefin, Coolmax, (which is a specialized polyester) and perhaps one of the strongest synthetic fibers namely Spectra! I already mentioned nylon, ( which is a brand name for Polyamide), polyester, acrylic, and polypropylene in my last post. I too have several pairs of Bridgedale of Ireland wool socks that I purchased more than fifteen (15) years ago, and which I used on many hikes, and which still don't seem to show any signs of wear! My Bridgedale socks which contain a high percentage of wool, are still blended with nylon and other fibers, so the durability seems not to have been affected with the addition of the nylon. The Bridgedale socks come from a company based in Ireland, which is a wool producer, however, I believe that they have been manufactured in China for many years. It seems natural since China has lower labor costs, and is the second largest producer of wool in the world behind Australia. By the way China is followed by the USA, New Zealand, and Argentina, as the top five (5) wool producers in the world. Some manufacturers claim that Yak wool, and Alpaca wool, are much more comfortable, durable, and better at insulating than Sheep/Lamb wool, or Merino wool. Polypropylene is a very durable synthetic, and it retains body heat better than wool, and has a lower thermal conductivity than any other traditional apparel fabric including silk, polyester and wool.and is used by the military to manufacture the Extreme Cold Weather System (ECWS), used by military troops. Spectra fiber is ten times stronger than steel and has a specific strength that is 40 percent greater than aramid fiber. Spectra fiber is used in numerous high-performance applications, including police and ballistic-resistant vests, helmets, and armored vehicles, as well as sailcloth, fishing lines, marine cordage, lifting slings, and cut-resistant gloves and apparel." Massdrop recently collaborated with Fitsok to manufacture a hiking sock made with Spectra, Wool, Nylon, Polypropylene, and Spandex, which based upon the blend of fibers should be extremely durable, moisture wicking, and comfortable. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-fitsok-spectra-hiker-socks#overview During testing, the yarns surpassed 80,000 cycles on the abrasion testing machine and the test was abandoned because the socks weren’t going to fail. So, with all that being stated, yes wool socks are great, and I personally love wool for socks, sweaters, base layers, scarves, beanies, etc. However, I also like wool socks and other apparel that are blended with other fibers in order to enhance the performance, durability, moisture wicking, odor control, and comfort, etc! So, would I purchase the socks offered in this drop? The answer is no, and not because of the price, which I think is fair, or the fiber content, but because of the reported sizing issues, and because I do not consider a 7 inch sock height to be a true crew sock! Seven (7) inches is more of a three (3/4) crew, or a hybrid crew. I have measured all of my crew socks, and they are all in the ten (10) inch to thirteen (13) inch height, which in my mind is a full crew sock, and in some case a boot height sock. By the way, the Fitsok socks come with a lifetime warranty, and will be replaced upon request made to Fitsok. So even if they wear out you are covered. Following is the Fitsok warranty: Other sock companies that have these similar unconditional, no questions asked, lifetime sock warranties, include Darn Tough, Farm to Feet, Feetures, Icebreaker, and Wrightsock. Other companies that make good socks like Wigwam have conditional lifetime warranties, and some well known sock companies like Smartwool, Bridgedale, Fox River, and Thorlo have warranties ranging from three (3) years for Smartwool, down to thirty (30) days in the case of Thorlo! I hope this helps open your mind a little, as again sheep or lamb's wool is great, and so are other fabrics, fibers, and materials, whether synthetic or natural!

Dec 24, 2018

SDanteNot sure why, but the Fitsok warranty that I cut and pasted did not appear in my last post. Here is the link: https://www.fitsok.com/pages/the-fitsok-warranty I will try again here.

Dec 24, 2018

MsilverhammerI know about colloidal silver, perhaps you've heard of lanolin. Bamboo in good, but not relevant. Silk makes you sweat, I've worn enough to know. Alpaca wool is more expensive, Viscose is rayon, Rayon is one of the worst fabrics you could possibly use, Olefin is just you saying polypropylene again, Coolmax isn't much better than cotton, (so why bother with an expensive specialized polyester that isn't much better) it's weaker than silk, this "strongest synthetic fibers namely Spectra!" China buys it's sheep from Australia and New Zealand. We don't have a need to produce a lot of wool, so we sell it to China, who sells it to America, and we keep the profits. Pay is really good here, goods are cheap here, life is easy here. Largely because of sheep. If you knew what aramids are you wouldn't say aramid fibres. Aramids are fibre, lots of static but you don't mind being a shock when you put a sock on right? They rely on other material around them anyway, since its a replacement for asbestos. Breathe it in. 80k cycles is good on a machine. 7 days, take them off at lunch, 7x4 is 28 x52=1456 x the 12 years they lasted with only one repair = 17472 About the same, except I still have mine and yours lasted almost 500 more simulations. I found the important part in your warranty "FITSOK does not accept returns on damaged socks after 30 days from delivery due to the fact that we cannot control the handling or misuse of the socks. " And you get to deem what is "misuse" So, keep your dangerous rayon. Keep your dodgy warranty, keep your ridiculous price and go back to your appalling minimum wage. Less than $20/hr? Seriously? That's pocket change here

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