I thought they were OK for the price but was disappointed by the connections and overall biuld quality. But than again I have the X00, audeze el8 titanium, isine 20, switch between several iems all of witch have amazing biuld quality and sound. I should have never gotten these and if you want something high fedelity/very well biult/comfortable don't get these. They are only good for someone who thinks they want to get into audio