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arunps4u
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Nov 28, 2017
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HD6XX or HiFi HE4XX?
Nov 28, 2017
Gregotav
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Nov 28, 2017
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¿Por qúe no las dós?
Nov 28, 2017
frivoflava29
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Nov 28, 2017
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Right? I just joined in on the 4XX drop while I wait for my 6XXs and I sure am broke, but happy!
Nov 28, 2017
Gregotav
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Nov 28, 2017
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I just dropped $180 on the AUNE X1S yesterday to go with my 6XX when they finally come in. Woke up this morning and was like "fuuuuuuuck! I'm going to hate myself." and then proceeded to checkout.
Nov 28, 2017
bigshel
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Nov 28, 2017
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Depends on your sound preference... I have both and prefer the HE4XX's but I love the sound of planars. The 4XX's are way better with the low end and are more vocal forward than the 6XX's. The 6XX's have a wider sound stage and are better with the highs. Again, all my opinion/my ears and experience but if you're primarily listening to jazz, R&B, Hip-Hop, most pop... all will probably sound better and more substantial on the 4XX. Classical and music with less low end demands, the 6XX will be great. They sound different enough that they don't really overlap IMO, so get both... your wallet will forgive you someday.
Nov 28, 2017
arunps4u
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Nov 28, 2017
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I just purchased the audeze sine with cipher. Does it still make sense to go with either of the HD6XX or HE4XX?
Nov 28, 2017
bigshel
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Given the number of headphones I have, I'm probably not best at advice on "not buying" stuff, haha. I owned the Sines a while back, solid headphones... on-ear are just not comfortable for me with glasses. Both of these will be different than the Sine's, I think the 4XX's will be a bit darker than the Sines and the 6XX's will be slightly brighter and way more open. It certainly could make sense to have all three (well, to crazy audiophiles at least). If you're just getting a second pair for variety, I'd probably go with the 6XX's with the Sines to start, unless really good bass/sub-bass is a must. The Sines can do it but not as effortless as the 4XX (if I'm remember them correctly)... the 6XX, not so much on the bass to me.
Unless you're in a rush or want to get before the holidays, I'd recommend waiting until you get the Sines and see how you like their sound; both of these will be back on Massdrop again.
PS. I'm a bit of an Audeze fanboy ... the iSine's are wonderful too (I have the 10's and am upgrading to the 20's).
Nov 28, 2017
hellotony
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Nov 28, 2017
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Hey @arunps4u , I have all 3 and I would say the order from best to worst is 1. iSine 10 with cipher cable, 2. HD6XX, 3. HE4XX.
iSine does everything amazing. The best sound I've heard with HUGE sound stage. It's so airy. You're in a room of sound rather than the sound being in your head. There is a clarity and sparkle in the treble that can't be matched by the 2 headphones below. The bass is richer and deeper than the two headphones below with the sub-bass rumbling at frequencies I've never heard before. You'll know when you listen to Yosi Horikawa's Wandering. Some people might think the iSine may not be neutral or may not play the songs faithfully but I don't care. It sounds the best to me. But the limit is iDevices only with the cipher cable and I'm glad I'm an Apple fanboy. I don't use the regular 3.5mm cable that's included. Another downside is that it's not too comfortable.
HD6XX does everything great with small soundstage but it feels intimate. Works great plugged into iPad directly or iPhone or a DAC or my OPPO HA-2SE. The quality does get better but from the iPhone to the OPPO, you have to try hard to hear the difference though there is a slight difference. I didn't like it at first but over time, I've grown used to the sound. I compared this to a pair of HD598 and no contest. These are much better. Wins in comfort.
HE4XX sounded pretty terrible with the SMSL Idea dac (while the HD6XX sounds smooth and great). The trebles are shrill and piercing right away. But I think that was the cold nature of the DAC. Plugged into the OPPO, it mellows down tremendously and sounds warmer. Perhaps someone would know a better amp for the HE4XX but to my ears, the HD6XX just sounds more intimate and clearer. Plugged directly into my iPad, it sounds pretty great too. High is not as shrill but definitely more trebly than HD6XX. HE4XX is a great sounding headphone. The voice is recessed meaning that it sounds further away. The HD6XX has the vocalist singing right into your ear. There is a lot of bass but I do feel that it's a bit heavy down there and not as balanced as HD6XX nor the iSine. Comfort is great also but bested by HD6XX.
All 3 can be powered by your idevice only and sound pretty great. iSine the best, follow by HD6XX then close on it's tail, the HE4XX. I think the price point for all 3 reflects the sound quality they deliver. If I had to choose one, it would be the iSine hands down. It's comfortable enough and non fatiguing enough. Sound bleed is not terrible for quiet offices unlike the other two. Best part is you don't get headphone hair!
Nov 28, 2017
bigshel
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almost completely agree, I'd take the 4XX over the 6XX if I only could choose 1 just because of the lack of solid low end on the 6XX, I like my sound more substantial where the Senns are a bit more airy. But it's like food, different tastes for different people. I also found the clamping on the Senns less comfortable but I have a big round head hahaha. Agree, the iSines are wonderful; not sure if the OP got those or the on-ear Sines though.
Nov 28, 2017
arunps4u
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Nov 28, 2017
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Sorry about that. Should have been more precise. I have the Audeze Sine on ear headphones. I got a brand new one for $199 and just got the delivery yesterday. I'm new into audiophile headphones. If I am keeping the Audeze Sine on ear headphones and i can buy only one more, then which one? HD6XX or HE4XX? I listen to all genres of music.
PS: Also have air pods and Sony MDR1000X (planning to return Sony)
Nov 28, 2017
frivoflava29
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Well... do you like chocolate or vanilla ice cream? :) Sorry that's not helpful, but the sound each set of cans produces is will worth the price tag in either case. I'd go with the 6XX if only because it'll last longer and already has a rich history in the Audiophile world. OTOH, the 4XX is the only good pair of planar magnetics you'll find for under 200 (although the 400i it's based on is only around 220 on amazon, and the Monolith M1060 was just 250 on Monoprice's website for black friday). I mean, like I said, I bought both; I probably shouldn't be answering this, because I also love ice cream.
Nov 28, 2017
bigshel
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Don't sleep on the Fostex T50RP mk3... Solid planars at $150
Nov 28, 2017
Gregotav
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The extreme lack of units and the amount of complaints in that discussion thread makes me think that they're just returned units. I wouldn't touch that drop unless I could have a very long chat with the product manager.
Edit: thought you were talking about the T-X0 which just came back. My mistake. The MKIIIs are good but but I wouldn't suggest them unless you have a damn good amp.
Nov 28, 2017
bigshel
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No worries. I have the the mk3's and the T-X0... I was disappointed in the T-X0's in comparison, to be honest. Trying to decide if I'm going to keep them and play around with modding them or sell them. The mk3's with the dekoni pads are a better option.
Agree on the amp... but if you're buying the 6XX's or any planars and don't have an amp, you're not real about that audiophile life. haha
Nov 28, 2017
bigshel
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Agree with @frivoflava29 ... given what you bought already, go with the 6XX.
Nov 28, 2017
ddre54
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Nov 29, 2017
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I have the Audeze Sine with cipher cable, and also have the HD 650 (like HD 6XX) and the HE 400i (like HE 4XX).
The Audeze Sine sound amazing!, they are good headphones with a lot of details and punchy bass (not booming but punchy). Due to their weight the Audeze Sine are not comfortable for long listening sessions.
In that regard, the most comfortable are the HD 650 (HD 6XX) in wearing and sound signature, not fatiguing (a bit on the dark side not for much).
The HE 400i (HE 4XX) not sure in comfort, but if might be more comfortable than the Audeze Sine, but heavier than the HD 650. The sound signature is a bit brighter (livelier) which can result in fatigue.
I use the HD 650 as my default setup at home, for comfort and slightly darker sound tonality which make it ideal for long hours without fatigue.
I use the Audeze Sine on the go, or time to time when I know I'll be able to fully focus on listening music because of the great detail that they provide and the short time I can wear them
The HE 400i I just got them, so I can't fully tell yet how they will enter in my rotation, but they offer a nice inbetween step between comfort and that Planar Sound with punchy bass and speed that I like in the Audeze Sine. (Audeze Sine still being more detailed)
The only problem with the Audeze Sine is that I can almost feel a dent on my skull after long listening sessions, and when I wear them for long time, it was a conscious effort to deal with that pain that is just doable because of the Amazing sound they provide.
NB: At higher volumes, depending on the type of music, I can tell the Audeze Sine tend to distort more than the HD 650 and the HE 400i.
Hope this helps
Nov 29, 2017
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I own both and knowing what I know now, the HE4XX.
Nov 30, 2017
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