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Hydrox
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Dec 6, 2017
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What are the differences between this and Sennheiser PC37X and HD6XX? Which should I buy? This my first time choosing over 100$ headphone
Dec 6, 2017
PraxisCat
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Dec 6, 2017
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The PC37X has a built in microphone, is much easier to drive (you can use on-board audio usually), is less comfortable than either than the 6XXs or the HE4XXs, and it's a closed back, which means that it has worse imaging and acoustical performance but doesn't leak sound and isolates what you hear.
The HD6XXs and HE4XXs are much better headphones in terms of audio quality, but also require more investment (likely dedicated headphone amps). The differences between the HD6XXs and the HE4XXs are pretty hard to explain if you haven't listened to a lot of audio equipment, but they're relatively similar, with the 6XXs having a more present bass, a narrower soundstage, and a more forward mids and more recessed treble. The 6XXs have everything sounding very cohesive while still being fairly neutral. The HE4XXs are slightly more v shaped but have a pretty analytical sound; things don't necessarily sound as "cohesive" as the 6XXs. For some people, that's good, for some, that's bad. The 4XXs have super accurate bass, but it's not particularly loud or head rumbling.
Dec 6, 2017
AlexBlack
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Dec 6, 2017
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I've been researching (suffering over) the differences between the HD6XX (HD650) and the HE4XX (HE400s 2.0) for about a week now and from what I've read the consensus appears to be that the HD6XX is a much more neutral sound with better highs, whereas the HE4XX is a warmer, punchier sound with better lows. Both benefit from from an amp/dac, but with over 100 less ohms of impedance the HE4XX is going to sound quite a bit better overall if you can't splurge for a decent amp at the moment, which will run you about +$100 (the O2 and Magni 3 are by far the cheapest and most efficient options to pair with the HD6XX).
All in all, I think you'll do far better with the HE4XX than most people ever get with their first pair of cans over $100, with a build quality and sound that is frankly bizarrely immaculate for this price bracket by nearly all accounts. In my opinion, go with the HE4XX and don't look back.
P.S. The PC37x is a gaming headset, less concerned with sound quality by design, and is therefore not in the same league as dedicated audiophile equipment like the other two products.
Dec 6, 2017
EniGmA1987
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Dec 7, 2017
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The HD6XX sound nice, and are known for being very good headphones that only get better and better with higher amp quality. However I find them too analytical in many things I enjoy listening too, and they are also very uncomfortable headphones to wear. The HE4XX sound similar, but are just a tad less analytical and it makes the music more enjoyable to me. Basically what this means is that music recordings that are of lower quality are brought out and sound bad on the HD6XX. This is not the headphones fault, but the recording studio and band's fault. However, I still greatly enjoy quite a lot of low quality recorded music, and the HD6XX makes me hate it too much. So that is something you should take into consideration as you move to higher quality and more analytical headphones.
The HD4XX is a planar design with typical low impedance though, which means they want an amp with a good bit of current capability to drive them well. So you will want some kind of amp and DAC setup before you really use the HD4XX, and honestly you should also have a decent amp and DAC before the HD6XX too. Remember that the HE4xx is a low impedance design, so you will want a solid state amp for it. Both because SS have lower output impedance to match ther headphones and because tube amps *generally* have more voltage gain capability than current output capability (unless the tube amp has multiple power tubes). The HD6XX are high impedance headphones and will work well with SS or tube, and can really shine with good tube amps.


Just some things to think about.
Dec 7, 2017
nantipaneith
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Dec 7, 2017
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Buy the Senns; they're the best all-rounders.
Dec 7, 2017
nantipaneith
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PC37x is basically the HD6XX, though most people will lead you to believe otherwise for various reasons.
Dec 7, 2017
nantipaneith
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Dec 7, 2017
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You can save money by getting the pc37x over the 6xx, and not get worse sound quality, though more game-specific tuning, that comes with a microphone and a fussier cable. If you want to pay another 80 for the true audiophile-aspirations-on-a-budget package, then do it. The planars are great but less of a sure thing for everyone's tastes.
Dec 7, 2017
AlexBlack
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Dec 7, 2017
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Interesting, I've never heard as much about the pc37x; mind telling me what you mean by "game-specific tuning"? I'd just opted for an shp9500s and modmic for my headset and forgot about it.
Dec 7, 2017
nantipaneith
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Mids accentuated for clarity of gamestuff
Dec 7, 2017
Noldir
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Dec 10, 2017
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It might have lower impedance, but if you don't use it with an app that can supply enough current they might go loud but they'll like bass and sound tinny
Dec 10, 2017
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