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JWolters
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Feb 19, 2018
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Any suggestions for increasing bass impact on these? These are my first planar magnetic headphones and I can’t seem to understand the hype about “planar bass”. They sound extremely thin to me when comparing to my Fidelio X2’s.... I can get a reasonable level of bass only when cranking my Audeze Deckard amp and increasing bass on iTunes equalizer.....but they are unlistenable with my portable amp. Just cannot understand what people are talking about when they say planar shave great bass.....not hearing it at all. I even put on some ZMF angled sheepskin pads and that did almost nothing. Any suggestions are invited. I WANT to love them.....but.... Thanks!
Feb 19, 2018
DenonFanboy
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Feb 19, 2018
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They wont beat the Fidelio for bass impact but they will beat it for bass tightness and sub-bass. The Fidelio in general has a accentuated bass and overall warmer tilt while the 4XX's are more towards neutral. I think the right headphone for you would be Audeze LCD2C (Classic) not to mention u have the Deckard which would be awesome together! :)
Feb 19, 2018
Cokeman
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Feb 19, 2018
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These don’t have that “planar” bass. These are a cheap planar. If you want “planar bass” for $160, get T20RPs. Those are insane bass cans.
Feb 19, 2018
dwane5
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Mar 2, 2018
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let me take them off your hands for $100.01
Mar 2, 2018
MarkUp
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Mar 2, 2018
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I've tried almost every planar. The sound is consistently mid focused. Some with more or less bass or treble. Some have nothing below 50 hz, some reach down to 20 hz. In no case do any of them have the Harman Response Curve (an inverse of how we hear - which is the Fletcher Munson Curve). Even the famed Audeze LCD 2 pre-fazor. On a graph you see how that is flat from just under 1 khz to 20 hz. Sub bass has to be at least a few, preferably more than a few db's, louder than midrange. The only Planars that'll seem to have this curve that I've heard is the newest not yet released Advanced Sound GT-R. They're also smaller, more portable and fit even my large head at CanJam. Other than that, I am done trying to find sub bass that hits hard on a Planar. Not just speed - but a proper sustaining boom on an 808 at 20-30 hz. You won't get that on 99% of Planars.
I have the Meze 99 Neo for fun listens with its amazing 3D mids, warm Audeze like high end, and subs that really hit low. The mid bass to low mids are a bit more than ideal, but you get used to it. I also have the Sony MDR-1A with Meze 99 pads, that is similar - with a little more treble and sub bass, and tighter low mids. Not as 3D in mids as the Meze but great for an analytical yet also fun listen, I can use at lower volumes, because the need to crank it to hear more highs and lows isn't there with them. Stick to dynamics if you want sub bass that really booms, and yes, some do it cleanly. Some don't (ie. the cheaper X-bass Sony stuff at Best Buy) some are clean but just too much (some of the Fostex TH series), with a big spike on top, making for distant sounding midrange. Hard core fans of Planars will forever debate you on the bass issue, since we'll all hear things differently.
Mar 2, 2018
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