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Using a Chord Mojo—which has (2) headphone jacks and capable of driving just about any headphone x2—I compared the MD Sennheiser HD58X and the Hifiman HE4XX (both being about the same price point). I played a number of tracks from jazz to electronic to rock. The great thing about the Mojo and comparing headphones is that you're only limited to how fast you can get one set of cans off your head and the other on.
Jumping back and forth as I changed music types, I quickly came to the conclusion that it's apples and oranges in a way... the big "it depends". For me, I want to "feel" the music but with all of the detail and nuances that only a good amp/headphone combo can deliver. It didn't take me long to decide that the HD58X was to my liking. They are more forward and with better drive. The HE4XX were polite. They also sounded "reserved / pulled back / flattened", lacking in dynamics.
Too refined is considered a negative quality nowadays?
Too detailed? Really?
What, are you insulted that I didn't like the HifiMan cans? Take the review with a grain of salt - how about I take out the word "refined".
I am quite confused, not insulted, you alluded to them being "too detailed" as a minus, and am having an internal dilemma figuring out how less detail and refinement would be a better thing..you do realize refined is synonymous with elegant, polished, (what manufacturers strive for) right?
It's like huh? So I just didn't get it.