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bigjim
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Aug 10, 2017
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You can get these on eBay, direct from China for $15-20 including shipping. No frills. Direct from China shipped immediately will arrive long before this Massdrop offer is even shipped! (They come with a nice carrying pouch.)
Aug 10, 2017
bigjim
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Aug 10, 2017
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If the Massdrop version offers the USA lifetime warranty, it might be worth paying double. Your mileage may vary.
Aug 10, 2017
TheKlamps
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Aug 10, 2017
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They won't have an inline mic though. But if you don't want that, then order from China I guess... 😐
Aug 10, 2017
rjsf
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Aug 10, 2017
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I've seen them on eBay but could not get myself to buy one. What's the risk of getting fakes? I know the original Portapros are made in China but I've seen Chinese making fakes of Chinese products before...
Aug 10, 2017
BlueCrowned
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Aug 10, 2017
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These are a Massdrop exclusive. They have a thicker cable and an inline mic.
Aug 10, 2017
Zen-ish
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Aug 10, 2017
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Without the proper channels buying direct from China is not always a good Idea. Parts can be easily sourced there and any part including drivers can easily be replaced for cheaper ones. Also there is not always reliable quality assurance or any quality auditing done. Most of the ebay sellers from China selling them on the cheap have very few ratings if any.
Aug 10, 2017
albocaj
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Aug 10, 2017
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That is true. You'd be amazed with the quality of work they make. Some even look prettier than the legit ones lol I did buy a few of those just to have spare head straps to attach my KSC75 drivers
Aug 10, 2017
bigjim
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Aug 11, 2017
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I bought a pair to compare to my USA version. They sound the same and look the same, so who knows. The drawstring bag that they provide is nicely embossed with a big KOSS logo. So, if they are fakes, they are very good fakes. Also, if they are fakes, I wonder why Koss isn't shutting them down!
Aug 11, 2017
Username-1928328
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Aug 11, 2017
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Please post the order link...Massdrop will delay shipping on this also I am sure
Aug 11, 2017
BaggedMilk
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Aug 12, 2017
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Do NOT buy ANY Porta Pros that ship from China. Unless you want a fake. Buy from an authorized retailer or directly from Koss themselves.
Aug 12, 2017
reinterpret
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Aug 15, 2017
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Koss isn't shutting them down because they're operating out of China. The laws there are different, and enforcing stuff like that isn't a huge priority for the government. There's a reason China is known for bootlegs.
Aug 15, 2017
bigjim
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Aug 16, 2017
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Here's what one might envision: There's a big factory in China that makes Koss® Porta-Pros, among other things. There are two channels feeding out from that factory. One channel feeds to an authorized Koss® distributor who adds value and then feeds product to authorized Koss® dealers, who add value again. The other channel feeds direct sales to end users through out the world. Official Koss® uses this factory, but must add cost to the product for the distributors, dealers, advertising and warranty. The actual product is the same for both supply channels. This is why the "genuine" Porta-Pros are sold for about 3X the price of the China-direct Porta-Pros. If the warranty and "peace of mind" is worth paying 3X to you, then by all means do so. Building Porta-Pros is not rocket science.
Aug 16, 2017
reinterpret
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Aug 16, 2017
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I don't think that tells the whole story. There's very poor quality knockoffs of the Porta Pros floating around, or at least there has been. The knockoff manufacturers have no qualms about cutting corners on an already budget headphone. To say the "only difference" is the warranty and price is misleading, because the knockoffs I've seen had different drivers, worse build quality and worse sound quality. I don't believe they originate from the same factory; I would expect Koss to do something about that if it were the case (even if they couldn't shut down the knock offs, they'd move) because they're a decently serious company.
Aug 16, 2017
reinterpret
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Aug 16, 2017
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To be fair, though, I don't know for sure if the knockoffs that I've personally encountered had different drivers. I do remember that there were some floating around with different drivers with a lower impedance. I can tell the build quality was far more shoddy and that many parts were just differently molded, which to me hints that it wasn't originating at a Koss factory.
Aug 16, 2017
reinterpret
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Aug 16, 2017
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The compelling argument against paying up for real Porta Pros isn't the knock offs, IMO, which are often bad, but the cheaper and also legitimate Sporta Pro and KSC75 models.
I will say, though, if you got a good knock off, that's great. Chi-fi doesn't *have* to mean bad.
Aug 16, 2017
bigjim
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Aug 16, 2017
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Makes sense!
Aug 16, 2017
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