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I have these from a few drops ago. They have excellent stereo separation, but are severely lacking in bass. I wouldn't call myself a bass head but these things dont have any (running on FiiO K1 mini dac/amp through Oneplus 5 and desktop PC. Also tried on my Monoprice Tube Headphone amp). Compared to my Hifiman He-350's, these have a more detailed sound, but have less bass than the 350's.