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Jaytal
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Dec 18, 2018
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Looks fine and all, but after being in this community for a good while and knowing how individual keyboard components have been priced for quality/quantity over time, I can't find a single justification for this being priced so high. Also, the year long production time seems pretty unjustifiable as well considering the considerably low amount of keyboards that have even been ordered (probably a result from the ridiculous pricing.) I'm sure the quality will be good and the ones that do find this keyboard on their desks will be happy with it, but I'm sure there's plenty reason as to why those people will be in small number.
Dec 18, 2018
MiTo
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Dec 19, 2018
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JaytalSince you mentioned that you have been in this hobby for a while, and also mentioned that you have a good understanding about keyboard components, features and execution I would like to hear from you - how much do you think this keyboard should be sold for?
Dec 19, 2018
ASpatha
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Dec 19, 2018
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JaytalI have the MiTo Laser, love the thing but that was a long wait and the difference in price for this one and the Laser gave me sticker shock. That's a hell of a price difference for 13 keys. I'm just holding out for MiTo to make a programmable number pad. Which probably won't happen.
Dec 19, 2018
MiTo
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Dec 19, 2018
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ASpathaI still don't understand how anyone familiar with custom keyboards can possibly think the Pulse High Pro CTRL is expensive. For $199 a kit this is a total steal. Even if you add the most expensive switches available here, Halos, it is selling for $240.
  • Pulse HiPro CTRL - $199 (no switches, no SA caps) or $240 (with Halo switches, no SA caps)
  • Top part, bottom part, diffuser, built in plate, stabilizers
  • Hot swap (no soldering required);
  • QMK, RGB, LEDs;
  • Dual USB;
  • Cyan anodization or black anodization.
Let's look at "similar" options:
  • Duck Orion - $390 (no switches, no caps, no cable, no stabilizers)
  • Comes with a top part, diffuser, bottom part;
  • Has RGB, LEDs and programmable PCB;
  • No hot swap, no dual USB, no cable, no colored anodization.
  • https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98581.0
  • TGR Jane - $550 (no switches, no caps, no cable, no stabilizers)
  • Comes with case, plate, PCB, weight;
  • Is programmable, has LEDs, a couple anodization colors;
  • No hot swap, no dual USB, RGB underglow.
  • https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97552.0
This is just a couple examples, there are several other high end kits out there that cost about the same as the TGR and the Duck and are all inferior to the Pulse High Pro in literally every aspect. Even if you go full blow here and add the Pulse SA keyset the Pulse HighPro CTRL is still a better deal then anything else in the market. It's one hell of a kit!
Dec 19, 2018
ASpatha
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Dec 19, 2018
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MiToI'll admit your Laser was my first Mechanical, I think it was a fair price for quality. But that was $219. The price I'm seeing for this keyboard is $369, $329 without switches to compare to the Laser's $219. I appreciate your work and your comparison. The Laser is fantastic quality. The only reason my Logitech G-15 is still my main keyboard is the customization of commands and the bay of the extra 18 keys. Wasn't looking to throw hate at all. I was just commenting how much of a price difference it was. Was something different then the Laser then just the addional 13 extra keys. I'm having some difficulty swallowing the price of Mechanical keyboards. I want this thing like hell but holy crap this keyset is expensive. https://novelkeys.xyz/products/star-wars-galactic-empire-dsa-keycap-set Again Love your work! ::edit:: The hardest part here is the 1 years wait to be honest.
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Dec 19, 2018
izfanx
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Dec 20, 2018
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ASpathaJust gonna drop in my couple of cents here. Compared to ALT, this is a high-profile case. Which means it will straight up take more material to make. Furthermore, the features of this case is, while not "a lot" when we give it a glance, is quite complicated to that of the ALT. The ALT has a low-profile case, and based on what I'm seeing, you'd need to mill out the switch holes, and then mill out the edges to create the bevels. Plus the thinner stock material means it will take less time to machine. While this case has fillet edges, and more stock material, and so will definitely spend more time getting machined, which I believe would be the major factor as to why this is more expensive than the ALT. Do we want them to be expensive? Obviously not, the amount of money spent in this hobby is already outrageous. But this price-point (and price difference) is in no way "unjustified" in my honest opinion.
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Dec 20, 2018
Aemergin
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Mar 7, 2019
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MiToLOL at trying to compare this to a Duck or TGR. It might be aluminum but high-end? That is stretching it a bit.
Mar 7, 2019
MiTo
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Mar 7, 2019
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AemerginWon’t argue with you, I just presented facts.
Mar 7, 2019
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