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gwur
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Nov 8, 2017
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I am wondering if I should go for this or wait for Cavalli liquid carbon with DAC. Can someone who has heard the original sprout and liquid carbon compare the two? Thanks
Nov 8, 2017
Vigrith
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Do you own (or plan on purchasing) proper speakers in the future? That's the make or break here.
Nov 8, 2017
gwur
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Nov 8, 2017
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own a pair of speakers but this would be used as headphone amplifier with a digital input.
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Kbaum
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Nov 8, 2017
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These are different beats. The Sprout is also an integrated amp. It depends on your needs.
Nov 8, 2017
gwur
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Headphone amplifier with analog input +DAC with USB input.
how would they compare for this purpose.
Nov 8, 2017
Kbaum
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Nov 8, 2017
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I recall Zeos doing a review of the Sprout. He liked it. The LC if likely the better headphone amp, but if you need an integrated amp for passive spirits the Sprout may be a better value
Nov 8, 2017
Vigrith
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The Liquid Carbon is a dedicated, balanced headphone amplifier crafted by a super high end company (that is now defunct) that focused solely on that kind of unit.
The Sprout (II) is an integrated amp made by a company that mainly focuses on analogue audio/speakers; this is not to say its headphone amp section is an afterthought, it's just that they serve entirely different purposes.
"Active/passive speaker amp, headphone amp, vinyl preamp, subwoofer preamp, and DAC", DSD AND Bluetooth. That's what makes the unit attractive, it has everything for the people that want an all-in-one kinda box whilst the LC is just what it is - a headphone amp.
Nov 8, 2017
Kbaum
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Couldn't have said it better. Now I want one.
Nov 8, 2017
Ares78
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Teac AI 301 DA: for living room setup, no vinyl turntable, ok headphone amp, 279.99 (MD) or 399.99. Sprout II: for living room setup with vinyl turntable, good headphone amp, (Teac on really good crack) 599.99 (MD). Sprout I: for desk setup (no optical for TV or remote for easy controls) with vinyl turntable, good headphone amp, (Teac on really good crack minus optical in and remote) 499.99. Cavalli LCX/CTH: for desk setup, no vinyl turntable, not good for speakers, no bluetooth, great headphone amp, 239.99-379.99 (MD est.).
Nov 8, 2017
drummer307
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Nov 9, 2017
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Depends on needs... if you're in need of a preamp, turntable preamp, Bluetooth integration, or amp to power speakers this is the buy. For headphone amp only you might be better off with the Cavalli LCX.
Nov 9, 2017
Evshrug
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Nov 13, 2017
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I have a Liquid Carbon, serial number 47, and Massdrop sent me a Sprout II for review. Bringing together my thoughts, and will really get going after my wedding anniversary today. Brief impressions: I bought the LC because everyone proclaimed how it was an awesome pairing with the Sennheiser HD 800, because it had a fantastic smoothness to the treble that was engaging and sweet without any need for mods, and does a great job of bringing out the potential in the bass range. $600 for the amp, and I totally love it (not as much as my wife, but I can have both ;). Listened to the Sprout II for about 4 Hours with my HD 650, and an hour with my HD 800, without comparing side-by-side with my LC, I can state off the bat that I also don’t find this Sprout fatiguing. It’s enjoyable for long listens, and the size is slightly wider than the LC but less long (Both smaller than Massdrop’s version of the LC). It’s pretty fantastic to have the analog amp, a DAC with USB, Optical, and Bluetooth connectivity, and the speaker amp inside. I did compare my Chane bookshelf speakers side-by-side to my fullsize, entry level Yamaha AVR, and those speakers filled in the mids and lows much better, haven’t had a hollow note yet while streaming Apple TV movies or music to it! An upgrade over the dedicated Yamaha speaker amp, also way more capable in this department than the Creative X7 ($399, now a days $299) was with the same Chane speakers (X7 was “ok” with my Polk Monitor II M40). Addictive speaker setup, seems almost silly that this little box outperforms the Yamaha and gives me a ton of placement flexibility to connect my speakers and fill my livingroom with sound. Spoiler alert: I’m happy with it, but I’ll hammer out why in the full review. I suspect my LC will slightly edge out the headphone amp, and connecting my Chord Mojo (~$500) to the Sprout II should also outperform the Sprout’s built-in DAC, but taken as a whole package, the $599 Sprout II stands as a satisfying all-in-one audio solution piece!
Nov 13, 2017
jrjr
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Nov 13, 2017
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how does the LC sound compare to the Mojo with the HD800 phones?
Nov 13, 2017
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