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Icte
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Dec 22, 2017
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I was just about to place an order on HD6XX and suddenly these pop up. Been reading a bit about them but I am still super confused - is this even a valid choice given that HD6XX sells for only $50 more? I mean, who are these headphones aimed at? Is there any reason for anyone who already owns a pair of HD6XX to buy these?
Dec 22, 2017
Blindobat
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Dec 22, 2017
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I'm not an expert, but these have lower ohms (150 instead of 300 in the 6xx), and if you're planning on listening to music on your phone or a cheap dac, these should be easier to run. At least that's the reason I got them :)
Dec 22, 2017
lushkin
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Dec 22, 2017
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It's part of the HD6x0 family so should be in the same class of performance as the HD6XX but with a brighter, more energetic take on the sound, as opposed the the HD650's laid-back signature. It's already been mentioned that is sounds very close to the HD660S.
Dec 22, 2017
Wally999
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Dec 23, 2017
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This is fine w/o an amp. On 650 it's a must.
Dec 23, 2017
Runding99
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Dec 23, 2017
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Exactly, the HD6xx's are an incredible deal at their price point but remember that they require expensive DAC/AMP combos to drive them. The HD58x's have less than half the impedance (power requirements) and can be pushed on much less expensive equipment.
Just food for thought. :)
Dec 23, 2017
Icte
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Dec 23, 2017
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Thank you guys for your responses! I was planning to get a DAC/AMP combo with the HD6XX and will probably do so anyway if I get the HD58X instead.
Do these retain the same soundstage as HD6XX or is there a "lack of certain notes" (which makes it more muffled at certain notes) compared to HD6XX? I am planning to not only listen to music with the headphones I'll eventually choose (rock, metal, some R&B, techno electric/hardcore "dunka-dunka", even some classic so a wide variety of music) but will also probably use the headphones for gaming as well. Would the brighter and more energetic HD58X suit better for these things? Or are the HD6XX a better choice for listening to a wider variety of music genres?
Dec 23, 2017
lushkin
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Dec 23, 2017
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Well, first you're confusing two different things. Soundstage does not affect frequency response reproduction (actually it's the other way around) so it's can't be related to the infamous Sennheiser "veil", which is what you're referring to. Judging from the initial reviews on Head-Fi by project86 and greaslybeast (IIRC) the HD58X should have a more expansive soundstage to some degree and ab overall brighter sound than HD6XX /650. These two traits, which are usually bound together, arguably make it better suited for gaming (especially for FPS type).
Dec 23, 2017
mattris
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Dec 23, 2017
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Yes, using a DAC/amp combo with these would be wise. Take a look at the new iFi nano iDSD Black Label, which is probably the best portable USB DAC/amp under $200... by a wide margin.
I think only a few people at Head-Fi have heard the HD58X (including Jude, of course), so you'll have look into (or ask him about) its sound-stage. In his video, he said it's a bit bright and bass-shy. It's likely that you'll need to use an EQ program (such as Equalizer APO) to get the sound you're looking for - especially if you'll be listening at moderate-to-loud volumes.
Dec 23, 2017
mahee
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Dec 23, 2017
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You buy a expensive spare earpads for your HD6XX It comes with a nice headphone too
Dec 23, 2017
Blindobat
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Dec 23, 2017
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Why is this so funny to me? lol
Dec 23, 2017
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