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Finally received mine. Dont know what to say as I am no pro when it comes to Audiophiles but I will say that I definitely love these. My best interpretation is that, they have a bit more bass than my 650's and on some poorly recorded songs it can get muddy. That would be the only downside to these for me. But overall, with good quality music recordings they are solid. I find they get a bit louder than the 650's. That could be due to the setup I have. I am using them with a Magni 3 and a Mayflower ARC as the DAC since it has the option for a mic for my gaming sessions. I'm sure my 650's would outshine in this department if I had something like an NFB11. They do not sound as open and wide as my 650's. The music feels closer to my ears, like headphones. I think the 650's for sure are more open sounding than these. Don't know if that is good or bad. An open back that sounds a little closed?! In terms of aesthetics, the gray grills are not as bad in person as I thought they'd be, I hardly notice it. I could live without the matte finish around the ear cups though. The glossy black finish is more appealing to me but that's just me. Overall I am happy with the purchase, especially at this price point. In the future, I may consider changing out the matte black covers for the glossy blacks from the 660's. And speaking of 660's, I wish I had a pair to compare my 650's and 58x's to so I can see for myself what the fuss is all about. Hopefully someone can drop a YT video of a legit comparison.