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How do these compare to the Audio Technica ATH-AD700X? I use them for music listening (everything mostly but usually metal or hardstyle) and gaming.
I have a Audio Engine D1 DAC - and I cannot hear the difference with the AD700X. Would this be needed with he HD 58X?
Don't quote me but 58x has less treble but more bass? smaller sound stage but perhaps clearer imaging? 58x for music, ad700 for gaming. I'm not super familiar with either one though so perhaps do more homework on the topic.
ad700x is efficient as headphones get so it's reasonable that amplification benefits are harder to hear. 58x takes quite a bit more voltage to drive at the same loudness (over x3 more). It's not super hard to drive but probably enough to desire to use an amp when available.
I have an Audioengine D1 as well. These sound great on the D1. They actually sound pretty good when plugged into my iPhone 7 too. The sound is just a little less full coming out of the iPhone.
I have had the 700x for a couple of years now, bought them specifically for gaming. Got the 58x to see if they can be my all around headphones, but they are basically just for music. As someone else said, 58x more bass, less treble. Sound stage is pretty weak on the 58x too. The 58x has the sound signature I like more, and is much more lively than the 700. One thing to note, I personally get fatigue from the 58x after a while, when I first got them I got fatigued pretty quick. I think it has to do with getting used to the 700x (which caused fatigue for me early, but not at all anymore) and then trying to go with the 58x.
A DAC won't change much of your sound, an AMP will, but the 700x doesn't need an AMP. The 58x benefits from an AMP though.