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Sep 19, 2018
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Just got my pair of 58X's which may or may not be like 660s! Looks like the box had quite a journey...
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Sep 19, 2018
Maxime_Audio
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Sep 20, 2018
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Did you use this headphone with an amp?
Sep 20, 2018
m425
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Sep 21, 2018
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On paper, no you don't really need it. But it will work better and sound nicer. Check any reviews of 660s. They have same driver.
Sep 21, 2018
Evshrug
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Sep 21, 2018
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Sennheiser just confirmed here on Massdrop a few days ago that they are not the same driver.
Sep 21, 2018
m425
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Sep 21, 2018
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Well, I stand corrected. I wonder how different it is.also, could it be that Zeos was, don't know, emotionally distorted while testing and reviewing?
Sep 21, 2018
Evshrug
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Sep 21, 2018
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And if you think about it... why would foam behind the driver absorb some treble compared to another open-backed headphone (HD 660 S)? Maybe if they were both closed-back headphones and you had to worry about reflections, but even then Sennheiser says the foam makes minimal acoustic difference and is there mostly to protect the driver if you drop the headphone, and for aesthetic reasons.
but even if the (both new) HD 660 S and HD 58X Jubilee are of different quality, I have an HD 58X Jubilee and can attest to them being a great value. I haven’t heard both the HD 58X Jubilee and HD 660 S side by side, but I did hear the HD 660 S side by side with an HD 650 and HD 800 S, and it sounded like it was perfectly in the middle between those two in signature and quality.
Sep 21, 2018
Evshrug
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Sep 22, 2018
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I tend to believe the source rather than a guy who has to theorize from his own observations, and it is easy to want something cheaper/more affordable (sort of like bias confirmation). It also makes logical sense that a company wouldn’t devalue a new product by $350 a mere 2 seasons after it’s release, especially with Sennheiser’s track record of using MAP on the HD 650 and keeping it’s value up around the $400 or $350 mark for over a decade of its production until the release of the HD 6XX. The HD 6XX has been selling exceptionally well despite the age of it’s design, so I would only suspect the HD 58X Jubilee is more economical for them to make while also giving a great value to us consumers.
Sometimes I watch Z Reviews, but by and large I find his long videos to be more about entertainment from a personality that loves to make bold subjective claims, and I look elsewhere for objective measurements (like Head-Fi with their industry-standard measurement gear) and facts (Statements from designers). They all have their place/value.
Sep 22, 2018
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