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What is best ~200$ amp to go with this ? Does it scale with say a Magni3 ?
The O2 (whatever version by Massdrop, JDSLabs or Mayflower) or the Schiit Magni 3 are good choices (JDSLabs also builts alternative amps which you may consider). Both the O2 and Magni3 and good sounding. There may be better amps out there, but if your goal is to buy a good inexpensive amp, both amps are good candidates. You may also add a DAC for a few dollars more (SDAC, ODAC or Modi3, depending on your choice).
So i have a Fiio x5 2nd Gen for a DAP and want to know how well it scales with amps. For example the 6xx we know by now scales well with improved gear.
I don not know these FIIO well. I know many use them and like them. I know some of them are not optimized for high impedance loads (300 ohms and +) but in the case of the
HD58X it is less of an issue...
Let me put it this way: if my iPad Pro is able to drive the HD58x Unamped, I guess any moderately powered amp will do. And FIIO have a good reputation of sound quality at affordable price, so If I were you I would give your FIIO amp a chance to drive your HD58X... maybe you could give us your impressions later on...
If I get an O2 amp do I need to get a dac to go along with it? I am a noob pls help. thanks
you don’t « need » a DAC, it really depends on your setup. What setup do you plan to use? What is your source ? If you have an analog source, then you don’t need a DAC. If you don’t or if your analog source is of low quality, you may benefit from a DAC. For example, you may use the analog 1/8 inch (3.5mm) headphone output of your tablet or phone or computer and then you don’t need a DAC. You may also use the line out of your cd player or receiver or computer to input your O2 without a DAC. Or you may use the usb out of your computer or lightning out of your phine and then you would need a DAC since the output is digital, not analog... If your analog output is of lesser quality, then you are better off using a DAC with your O2’s input signal.
My desktop is analog source from a decent midrange asus intel lga155 board. So I think I don't need a DAC. I feel like with my current setup my headphones can get loud enough at medium volume. So would I still need an AMP? From what I understand it seems like an AMP just help powers headphones when they have problems reaching a certain volume right? Right now volume is not an issue for me currently. I'm just wondering if an amp would make my experience even better in terms of hearing more detail and feeling the bass more. Also, the source of my music is also from Spotify Premium if that matters.
And my last question, my current phone is One plust 6t and it doesn't have an audio jack anymore and I'm using the USB C to 3. 5mm audio jack adapter, so would I need a DAC for my phone ?
An amp will provide more voltage and the resulting sound will be better, even from an average analog source such as a line out of a pc sound card. This is even more true for high impedance headphones which need a lot more voltage (and relatively less current) than low impedance headphones. I personally prefer outboard DACs for pc sound because most pc sound cards don’t provide high fidelity outputs, although it varies widely according to the quality of your sound card. Most Apple analog outputs from Macs, iPads and iPhones are relatively high quality, but with only 1V of output, which may be enough or not enough depending on sensitivity and impedance of your headphones. Most of PC Card outputs I’ve seen are of lower quality and you may benefit from external DAC before the Amp, but it depends on the quality of your PC sound hardware. Lastly, I do not know the relative quality of your Android phone for sound output.... I would recommend a Dragonfly Red or Black as an external DAC for most Android phones. I know some Android phones are however very competent sound wise, so it all depends on what you have and what you need. An external Amp will mostly be beneficial in most cases, to increase voltage and amping of sound by quality hardware. An external DAC will sometimes be beneficial, but not always, depending on the quality of your source hardware.
Thank you very much. I learned quite a lot from you. Appreciate the help.