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Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee Headphones
MadelynnV
3
Dec 26, 2019
Hey all. The 58X is going to be my first pair of "legit" headphones. I've had a pair of Astro A50s for the past 3 years (please don't shame me), and I was in desperate need of an upgrade. I do not know a lot about terminology or crap like that, but I'm trying to learn.
I've spent a bit of time going through the discussion posts and have come to the conclusion that I'm going to need an amp/DAC. I can't afford anything over $175 but am looking for the best possible sound quality for the price. Any recommendations?
This might be a super stupid question, but do these need surround sound for gaming? And is that something, if wanted, that should be on the amp or something I switch on and off on my PC? The Sennheiser GSX 1000 has an option for 7.1 surround sound, which is why I ask.
Thanks in advance. Sorry if my questions made you facepalm.
erickong
7412
Audiophile Moderator
Dec 26, 2019
MadelynnVI don't know about the surround sound stuff. It might be a gimmick.
High-end, open-back headphones are good about putting sounds in the right place. For example, if a song has a drum on the left side of the soundstage or pin pointing footsteps.
For an amp and a DAC, I can point you in the right direction. Schiit fulla, schiit magni and modi, mica origen g2, some products by topping and fiiO. All those are within your budget
Evshrug
3772
Community
Dec 31, 2019
MadelynnVHey @MadelynnV,
Nothing to be ashamed of, it’s great to see someone taking an interest in things we also take an interest in! I love helping guide people fresh to the scene, and their first impressions and excitement is infectious!
Ok, so I could give you tons and tons of info, or a short bit. I’ll do my best to start short, and maybe send you a link to longer stuff 😅
An amp is always necessary to drive any headphone, but often we don’t realize when an amp is included. Similar story with a DAC, but I’ll get back to that. For example, the $9 Apple Lightning dongle technically has a DAC and an amp in it... listening to “Dance Monkey” by Tones and I right now with my iPhone + dongle + HD 58X Jubilee right now, and honestly the sound is quite clean, clear, and pretty good volume at one mark above the middle volume level.
What does an upgrade get you then? Well, same lyrics and everything, but compared to my expensive HDV 820 desktop DAC/Amp, the modest dongle has less depth and richness than my best setup, basically the mids and bass sound a little anemic, thin, and I think it might be a little tiring to listen to for more than an hour. Apparently, neither will stop a cat from wanting to play with your cables 😆
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Evshrug
3772
Community
Dec 31, 2019
erickongTry out this surround demo with a pair of headphones!
https://youtu.be/s-HWq3wiVFQ
Unfortunately, I don’t have a recorded sample with the GSX 1000, but it’s very good.
I will add, these plug-and-play options are based on an average head (and ear, shoulder) shape. Outside that average, and they don’t work so well. Customizations range from a few presets or strength levels (GSX 1000, Creative SBX), the circumference/width of your head (Audeze Möbius with NX Waves), photos of your head/ears (Creative Super-Fi), all the way up to microphones in your ears and taking an exact response measurement (Smyth Realizer A16).
If anyone wants “the long version,” check out my blog on Head-Fi. Not everything is there, but definitely plenty of reading material:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/evshrugs-if-i-knew-then-what-i-know-now-discussion-journal.646786/#post-9067400
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