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varilight
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Mar 1, 2018
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Long time lurker, new to the MK scene (currently own the K-Type). What are the differences between the Tokyo60 and the upcoming Rama M60-A? Why would you pick the Tokyo60 over the M60-A and vice versa?
Mar 1, 2018
H2Whoah
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Mar 1, 2018
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Keep scrolling down, there's a comment from trungxle000 asking the same question, with several replies.
This is absolutely going to be less expensive. M60-A is estimated at $300-400: https://rama.works/m60-a Possibly even more if you want the optional interior weight. The M60-A is made of brass**, and is going to be a lot heavier. Like 2.5-3kg, compared to Tokyo's .7kg. There's a lot of feature parity between the two. The M60-A uses a type-c USB, which makes it currently harder to find a custom cable, if you're into that.
I'd pick the Tokyo60, buy a nice set of GMK caps, and still come out like $100-$50 ahead.
**correction: the base of the M60-A is brass. The top is made of aluminum, like the Tokyo60.
Mar 1, 2018
Vigrith
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Mar 1, 2018
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They serve different purposes as I've explained earlier in the discussion.
The M60 is a centre piece for a desk, very heavy, tastefully prominent but still minimalist and very striking.
The Tokyo60 is a truer modern rendition of the classic HHKB - a purpose driven, (trans)portable board that's also beautifully designed.
As said by @H2Whoah the prices are going to be quite different so you have to decide what you're looking for and then come up with an answer all things considered.
Mar 1, 2018
H2Whoah
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Mar 1, 2018
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That's a bit pretentious. They're both keyboards with the same layout, same solderless design, similar all-metal construction. One just has more expensive materials and and is more expensive. Whether you use it every day, mount it on a wall, or just photograph it for Instagram - they don't serve different purposes.
Mar 1, 2018
Vigrith
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Mar 1, 2018
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It's not pretentious at all. The HHKB was originally popular amongst workers before the enthusiasts caught on to the fact it's an amazing keyboard, TCN has said that was something he wanted to maintain whilst designing the Tokyo60 - do you not commute for work, if you work? Some people don't want to/cannot leave their peripherals at the office, having a board like this that you can just throw in your bag or briefcase is something those people may enjoy; one of the people I know that got early samples for this keyboard uses it for that exact purpose.
Rama's board is a statement piece (as are most or all of his designs) that just happens to be in HHKB layout because that's the one he favours for his daily and is something he's wanted to do for a while now (years). It's not meant to go anywhere, therefor it serves a different purpose and I think it's entirely fair to state them as such despite the similarities.
Mar 1, 2018
H2Whoah
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Mar 1, 2018
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So if I carry a M60-A to the office everyday, or if I leave a Tokyo60 at home on my desk, I'm not using them as they're intended?
Mar 1, 2018
varilight
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Mar 2, 2018
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Thanks for the input guys, I’ll weigh them up before making my choice.
Mar 2, 2018
Vigrith
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Mar 2, 2018
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I'm not gonna argue the semantics of efficiency or weight management with you. You can do whatever you wanna do, the dude was literally asking for the differences between both boards, I lay them down in order to try and help someone who's indecisive and somehow that appears to have upset you.
If you're not gonna concede the point then at least stop wasting my time with your pseudo-rhetoric and snark.
Mar 2, 2018
worthless_owl
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Mar 2, 2018
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Lol what a prick
Mar 2, 2018
Branny
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Mar 9, 2018
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I mean, you can carry the Tokyo60 to work every day. But I doubt many would want to carry the m60-a every day. not to say you couldn't bring the m60 to work. I bet people at the office would be amazed. The Tokyo60 a more accessible and simple board without features expected of a higher end board(usb-c, brass weights, extras).
Mar 9, 2018
H2Whoah
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Mar 9, 2018
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I definitely get that. I was dubious of the weight differences, because I know people that carry a few kg of laptops or other equipment to the office everyday, and others that won't even take a charging cable because of weight. I totally get that the M60-a is more premium, but everyone has their personal preference for how they want to use their keyboards : )
Mar 9, 2018
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