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These arrived yesterday (M11J-SL) - decided this afternoon to plug an adapter on these and drive them with my Schiit Stack. The remain pretty neutral even when aided which I feel is a plus with ear buds. I was impressed that they didn't get sloppy with the bass at all though even if I toggled the Magni 2U's over-drive (needed for my Fostex). These could be some nice buds if you enjoy playing around with portable dac/amp/dac+amp.