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What the heck, wasn't the maximum quantity at 4000 before? Now it's 5000. That is clearly misrepresentation as the odds have increased tremendously after the time of my purchase. The terms have changed for the worse, after the time of my purchase.
Massdrop said that this drop was first about the MEE products and not the other things. The other things are just bonus that they've added on top of it.
This drop isn't gambling (as per the "arguments" or, rather, loudly asserted opinions, of many above commentors). So I wonder why anyone is calculating their odds or caring about them.... :-P
True but when I got in (#3240), all 4 bonus prizes were already there so they were part of the drop and the main reason I got in. That and the drop being capped at 4000 was part of why it was attractive/ more exclusive at that time. Some of you want and would be happy with any of the 3 IEM's that are guaranteed but I'm sure others like me got in because of the (now even smaller) chance at scoring the bonuses.
MD saw how popular it became and increased the cap but kept the same prizes as when it was at 4000. They shouldn't be changing the parameters after the 1st person has bought the deal, much less at 2500+. They could've followed this success with a subsequent drop afterwards.
Unless they add more tiers or increase the quantity of the prizes available to keep the odds the same % wise as before, it's not fair to those already committed (majority). MD is increasing its value (higher profit margins while giving out the same # of prizes) but decreasing the customer's value (lower odds of winning said prizes).
This might not fit the legal definition of bait and switch but semantically, it sure fits in the literal sense; I feel like I was baited with higher odds and the terms were switched after my purchase. Hope that clears up why I'm not happy with the way this was handled.
I see where you're coming from, but there's one key flaw with your argument. You haven't made a purchase yet. You made a loose agreement to make a purchase that can be cancelled at any time. No funds have been taken from you and you can cancel. If you're not happy with the terms anymore, then cancel your order.
I think once they hit 5000 participants they will include an extra prize. If so then the probability of winning a prize will have increased (the quoted 1/# of participants is inaccurate as there's multiple prizes)
I wouldn't call that a flaw, more like an addendum :)
It says "x # purchased" in the description and I used "committed" and "purchased" interchangeably, my fault. I happened to notice the change but what about the people who didn't? Those who don't know you can cancel? Edit: Cancel option looks like its only available for the duration the drop is active, drop has ended, "cancel" option is gone and payment status is now "Paid".
My points still apply because the ability to cancel comes after the "agreement" to commit, if you come to know about the change. MD didn't send out an email alerting people of the change, the "buyer" had to be proactive in following up on this page, so it still favors them and is overall deceptive, the degree of which I'll leave to you to determine.
I'm still staying in, just expressing my thoughts and reasoning.
I didn't mean to come off as aggressive or saying your points weren't valid, as they certainly are, I just wanted to point out that it wasn't like they took all of our money and then told us things weren't how they said they were. Looks like we're not too far away from hitting 5,000... I expect that nobody at MD sleeps and is going to inform us what we won immediately haha. Good luck to everyone! But sorry guys, those HD800's are for me ;)