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RayF
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Jan 22, 2020
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exsomnisI am neither a fan, or a detractor of their watches, but I object to the Montblanc brand on principle.
Regardless, this watch isn't something I wouldn't personally go for--it's a pretty dull affair by my standards (too plain, smallish, not quite a dress watch, not quite a sport watch, kind of safe and middle of the road)--not the sort of watch I would notice on someone, and not the sort of watch I would expect anyone to notice on me.
On the other hand, a more conservative person, looking for smaller watch to wear to the office, that wouldn't attract the wrong kind of attention, might want to consider it.
Price-wise, however, this looks like a solid deal. I see them new on Chrono24 in $2,500 range and on Amazon, for just shy of $2,200:
https://www.amazon.com/Montblanc-Heritage-Chronométrie-Twincounter-114873/dp/B01LZ0KIHQ/ref=sr_1_266?crid=2SP5GFP3EAA95&keywords=montblanc+watches+for+men&qid=1579706270&sprefix=Montblanc+watch%2Caps%2C203&sr=8-266
Brand-wise, I would be very reluctant, particularly at this stage of my life, to be seen as someone who has been swayed, influenced, seduced, or frankly duped, by the pretentious/pompous identity the brand has carefully built (marketed) in recent years (since being acquired in order by Dunhill, Vendôme, and now Richemont Group) to become the very picture of a look-at-me, logo-identity, stuff.
Disagree? Explain this:
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exsomnis
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Jan 22, 2020
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RayFThanks for the illumination, buddy! I knew that they were into various other products too but deodorant?
I have to agree then. If I'm going to spend my money on fine watches, it might as well be a fine watch of pedigree or merit. Not a brand that could end up in my armpits!
AnotherVoice
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Jan 22, 2020
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RayFI love the commentary, but the mere fact that we wear expensive time pieces that can't compete with a cheap digital watch for accuracy or function, I would argue, means we are duped as much as the $40 hair gel guy - just in a different way. Perhaps those hair-care connoisseurs are shaking their heads at us fools who spend thousands on time-pieces no one notices or cares about. ;-)
RayF
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Jan 22, 2020
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AnotherVoiceI don't mind being a little duped--I have some Diver watches I've spent a few hundred bucks on--I'll admit that, but when Seiko introduces their new Seiko Monster Mouse Styling Foam, or their Grand Seiko eau de Toilette Spray Cologne, count me out!
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Yeptx
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Jan 23, 2020
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AnotherVoiceI would say it is not that easy to make a nice watch, not this one, but say something middle of the range like Omega. The only difference between their hair gel and hair gel from a drugstore is packaging.
Watchyoutalkingabout
Jan 23, 2020
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RayFAh cmon Ray, it ain’t that bad. I actually have a small sample bottle of Montblanc Legend cologne and it’s a bit like Fahrenheit by Dior.
I’ll even go so far to connect the dots you were mentioning with one word - Luxury. What one sees as luxury obviously depends on one’s perceptions so what we’re really dealing with is perceived luxury, and I think Montblanc really has come around.
For the watch nerds, they produce some serious heavy hitters - flyback chronos (we had one here back in the good days of Drop), an annual calendar chrono, and a perpetual calendar. Their world timers are a fraction of Patek’s and are certainly not a fraction of the quality. Yea they bought Minerva, so they didn’t earn it but I can’t hold that against them.
For the casuals, they offer brand recognition with again, perceived luxury. For less than $1500, you’re getting a watch with a name that to the gen pop is probably just as recognizable as a Breitling or Omega. For a lot of people, that name brand means everything. If it didn’t, $20 quartz Watches wouldn’t sell for ridiculous amounts just for having Fendi or Gucci or Kardamashedpotatoian on the dial. At least Montblanc has some quality behind it.
Give em a chance Ray. Pop on over to jomashop and check out their heritage series. They’re probably not your style, but they’re a pretty good value when compared against the alternatives. I’d take MB’s perpetual over the Frédérique Constant’s slimline, and I can’t think of many other perpetual calendars at that price point (grey market, since retail is for suckers).
For the record though, my personal best brand to make the transition from another product to watches is Victorinox. Swiss Made tools to Swiss Made tools watches - that one made sense.
RayF
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Jan 23, 2020
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WatchyoutalkingaboutStop--you had me at Kardashian!!!
Seriously, I wasn't dinging the quality of function of the watch, only my displeasure with the brand, and the perception of luxury implied by displaying on one's wrist. True, they're not my style anyway; mostly dress (not many with helium release valves) so it's easy for me cross them off my short list.
Now for a true watch guy like yourself, fending off nay-sayers like me, by explaining the points you've mentioned, shouldn't be difficult. But I envision a different scenario, where some youngster walks up a Montblanc watch-wearing guy and exclaims:
"Nice watch! I thought Montblanc only made deodorant?"
Watchyoutalkingabout
Jan 23, 2020
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RayFI’m telling ya, that Montblanc legend deodorant will get you all the women!
RayF
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Jan 23, 2020
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WatchyoutalkingaboutWell that's a different story!
I've recently experienced some minor resistance in that area.
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