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jari.perho
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Nov 15, 2017
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Those water column values seem surprisingly low to me. Has anyone used these tents in rainy conditions for a longer period of time?
Nov 15, 2017
DannyMilks
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Nov 15, 2017
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jari.perhoAgreed. I thought 1500mm rating for HH is the low end for waterproofness, and silnylon loses about half it's waterproofness over time. Therefore, it seems like many companies are making tents that are barely waterproof when new, and certainly won't be waterproof after a few years of use. MSR, Nemo, Big Agnes, Black Diamond, Gossamer Gear and others all have tents with 1200-1800mm rating. What gives?
I'm sorry I can't answer your question, but I have the same interest. My TarpTents are rated to 3000mm, and I heard that Henry is increasing some of the tent fabrics to 5000mm!
Nov 15, 2017
Stepbystep
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Nov 16, 2017
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DannyMilksWith a pu/pe coating, it's adequate on top (not for the floor although many are doing it). With silicone only (sil-nylon) it just depends on how the coating is done (formulation, application, how many passes, multi-directional passes, etc). I think the manufacturing methods of being able to produce a dual silicone-poly coating on such very thin fabrics is nothing short of amazing. Anyway, for the MSR tents their most recent durashield coatings seem to be doing very well, even improved from what they had back in 2013 or whenever it was they last made a formulation change. As long as you take care not to store it damp and try to limit all day UV exposure it shouldn't lose integrity for many years. One could make an argument that rolling for the stuff sack instead of just stuffing it in there can help prolong these coatings but if you stuff just don't overdo it, imho. Field performance is great. The floor will not let water through unless you're digging in elbows and knees over sopping wet ground (in which case you are better served by adding a footprint or going the European route with floor materials that are 5000mm or higher).
Nov 16, 2017
mgardneraa
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Nov 16, 2017
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jari.perhoThe fly's 1200 rating is getting to be more common in the mass produced tents as they aim for lighter weight. It's an adequate rating for the typical backpacker who will see heavy rain on fairly rare occasions. The floor is at 3000 which is better although there are higher rated 30d fabrics. I've been in conversations with one of the dedicated UL manufacturers to start making their designs with silpoly instead of silnylon for the benefits it offers of reduced wet stretch, water absorbtion and UV damage for the same weight. I'm slowly getting rid of my silnylon tarps. These MSR are decent tents but definitely need to be tended with care
Nov 16, 2017
LazYevgen
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Mar 20, 2018
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jari.perhoCheck Vaude... U will be surprised. 10k floor 5k walls.
Mar 20, 2018
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