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FrankieLidman
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Jul 6, 2017
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I get 5 of these on Ali.express including shipping for the shipping price here of 13 $ EDCGEAR Stainless Steel 20-in-1 Multi-Tool Keytool Key Multi Tool Multifunctional Survival Tool Best Pocket Set for Survival http://s.aliexpress.com/uEr2IRvi (from AliExpress Android)
Jul 6, 2017
Sloblo
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Jul 6, 2017
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FrankieLidmanI like how it's literally the same pictures with the Chinese taken off..... Massdrop needs to review some of these drops a bit more closely.
Jul 6, 2017
Decidence
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Jul 7, 2017
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SlobloDid you consider that those might just be ripping off the original? Even so the price discrepancy really illuminates how big of a margin the MASTRMND guys are making off these... come on now.
Jul 7, 2017
MSTRMNDcollective
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Jul 7, 2017
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FrankieLidmanMan, that sucks! Those are a total Chinese rip-off of our product! They even stole our photos (with my hand in them)! They cost us several times that price just to manufacture... If you look at the bottom photo (the one on the white background) on that listing you can see it's a poor knock off of our product and the product doesn't match our photos (the ones they stole and used in their listing) – for example the pry bar is smooth (not stepped for grip) and only machined on one side (as ours is stepped and CNC'd on both sides). Same with the box opener and apparently the cutter too, theirs is just one sided with would be terrible for performance... Not to mention all the sharp points and crooked edges and sloppy job overall. It's a very bad job on copying our design. Anyone who supports small US businesses and the Everyday Carry community shouldn't pump money into these foreign companies stealing hard worked for, intellectual property.
Jul 7, 2017
MSTRMNDcollective
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Jul 7, 2017
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DecidenceThis is exactly the case! 100% rip off of our hard work - and a terrible job at copying ours as well. :(
Jul 7, 2017
MSTRMNDcollective
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Jul 7, 2017
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FrankieLidmanAgain, another rip off of ours! How disappointing :( The raw materials cost more than what they are selling it for. And again, with the photos of their knock-off version, you can see the poor craftsmanship and terrible machining (and see how it doesn't match the product photos we took of ours). It looks like they cut them out by hand. Sad on so many levels.
Jul 7, 2017
MSTRMNDcollective
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Jul 7, 2017
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SlobloThey stole our photos (along with the design)! That's actually my hand in the photos, as well as in the video demo. If you look at their product photo (the one on the white background) you'll see it doesn't even look like the same tool when you look at the details. It's just a poor Chinese rip off, with our stolen intellectual property. It's very upsetting.
Jul 7, 2017
FrankieLidman
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Jul 7, 2017
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MSTRMNDcollectiveYup!! But if you didn't rip us off with outrageous prices for this piece of poor steel and then ask for 13 $ shipping it.... Then I would maybe bought your product, now i bought 20 of these ripoffs for 20 bucks
Jul 7, 2017
MSTRMNDcollective
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Jul 7, 2017
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FrankieLidmanLol. You get what you pay for, so good luck!
Jul 7, 2017
Decidence
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Jul 7, 2017
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MSTRMNDcollectiveI've heard of counterfeit products getting repo'd at customs when they come into the country. Can't you apply for some sort of protection in the same way?
Jul 7, 2017
MSTRMNDcollective
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Jul 7, 2017
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DecidenceCool, I was totally unaware of that. It's something we'll definitely look into. Thank you!
Jul 7, 2017
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