psicloneThank you sir! I appreciate that. Though, I dare say (and many of the reviewers agree) those lights are over exaggerating their lumens or reading at the emitter. They certainly don't fall into to the same quality level of NiteCore - though that being said, there's a lot to consider regarding the overall price/expenditure. 60 bucks and some duct tape, and you're getting close...and have 200 dollars left to spend on other things. Again, thanks for doing my research for me, it's appreciated.
Well it's all important to me! Quality vs cost. I did learn the emitter lumens was vastly overrated (thanks to the photon nerds - That's what I call the guys who really forensic flashlights. I'd be lost without them). I bought a TM26 3 years ago, used it once and it failed...so I'm not putting Nitecore in the same quality category as the cruddy knockoffs, but one always has to consider cost vs need/use. After having dove into the last 300ish and had it fail inexplicably makes me scared to make the jump again.
They can't increase the lm output with a lens. That's like saying I can increase the horsepower of my car by getting better tires.
The Lens only can effect the intensity, how many lm per area (Lux) at any given distance.
Typically most lights you can find on Amazon/Ebay/ect... that claim 1,2,3,4,000+ lm for less than $50 are off by a factor of 10. If it says 5,000, it's likely going to be around 500 if you actually test it. You can read a lot about this on CandlePower Forums.
These lights can get good reviews because 500lm is still very bright, and most people are only used to older 150lm maglights, 500 might as well be 5,000 to them, they don't know any better.
psicloneThat's not how any of that works haha, the cheapest high lumen flashlight is the convoy L6 at 3500+ lumens. Cree what? Cree makes dozens of LEDs and the one in yours could be one of their shitty ones. Flashlights arent as simple as "its got a chevy in er". I'm just gonna bet you're trolling
outofmemoryIf you want a cheap light, I learned a bunch about flashlights a year or two back. The convoy L6 is the best cheap high output light out there right now and I can attest to their consistency since I've had two of their lights, the M2 and the S2. I recommend getting the warmest tint one you can (the lower K value, usually 4500k)
MainStreamingI appreciate your consumerism and research/help to a fellow money waster (spender!). :) For the record: I don't want a 'cheap' light - I want one within the current financial constraints of our economy (ala, cost vs quality). I always appreciate a good tip on a producer/manufacturer that can balance that thin line - so thanks for the tip/lead!
MainStreamingOne thing I've learned in life: Cheap work is never good, good work is never cheap! I knew exactly what you meant - basically I was saying: I don't mind spending for the good stuff - in retrospect, don't quite know why I didn't just word it that way in the first place! Anyway, I do love good tips on products, and I very much appreciate it!