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JasonBetaWells
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Jul 1, 2015
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They seem really nice, but i'm sorry, $80 for a wrist rest? That's like spending $140 on a mouse pad. It's just not realistic or reasonable for its function.
Jul 1, 2015
HappyHounds
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Jul 3, 2015
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JasonBetaWellsThey are very nice. I can type just as well on a $1 Inland dome keyboard as I can on a fancy $150 mechanical keyboard, they don't actually function any differently. Is the experience different? Yes. Do mechanical keyboards make sense to everyone? No. some people think you're insane for spending that much on a keyboard. It's all about the experience and this rest will give you comfort, durability, and like a lot of people with mechanical keyboards--it's meant to look good and last for years of use.
Half the things sold on MassDrop are not reasonably priced for the function. And considering you don't have one, why stop in and comment? Do you stop by all the drops you think are overpriced and comment? Handmade quality isn't cheap. If you want a cheap, production rest--this is not the rest for you.
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Jul 3, 2015
JasonBetaWells
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Jul 4, 2015
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HappyHoundsThis wrist rest happens to be about 70% of the cost of my finely crafted Ducky keyboard. If you think that's a good value, because "its very nice", that's your prerogative. On the other hand, it is equally my prerogative to comment if I feel I have something to contribute for whatever reason. Since when do you have to own one to comment?
My contribution here is that while I'm sure this is a fine product, it's a bit unreasonably priced and from reading around, clearly I'm not the only one that feels that way. Thank you for your time and I'm glad you're happy with your investment.
Jul 4, 2015
nokosleather
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Noko Leatherworks
Jul 4, 2015
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JasonBetaWellsI'm sorry you feel that way, and I appreciate your critique. About what price point would you be interested in?
Jul 4, 2015
Yakov
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Jul 4, 2015
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Jul 4, 2015
JasonBetaWells
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Jul 4, 2015
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nokosleatherI appreciate your reply. I am sure it is a fine product, but all things considered I just can't justify the cost. Perhaps something more around the $50 (+ ship) mark seems more reasonable? Still a bit on the higher side for a wrist rest, but considering it is a craft item, hand made etc, I think that it is notably worth more than the typical. Any thoughts from anyone else on a $50 price point?
Jul 4, 2015
nokosleather
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Noko Leatherworks
Jul 4, 2015
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JasonBetaWellsIf you're interested in trying a wrist rest--you can't go wrong with a Filco/Ducky leather wrist rest at that price point. Wrist rests are very much a personal preference thing, and I would always recommend trying a cheaper one before committing to something more expensive! I myself only use a wrist rest with some of my keyboards, and not with others.
Part of being a community maker is that I have no problem being transparent with my costs. I've already started prepping leather for this batch, so I can tell you that raw leather costs are about $35 per wrist rest, and the metal and other supplies bring it up to around $38 on average. Each one takes an hour and a half to make, which at min wage is around $17, so at $55 I would already be selling at less than cost, not taking into account any overhead costs nor profit.
There is something everyone can do about the rising cost of made in USA leather--eat more beef! ;)
A Filco leather wrist rest is around $50, but is glued rather than stitched together, uses a thin composite leather top and a rubber bottom, plus it's machine-made. I truly stand behind the claim that the price I charge for these directly translates into higher quality design, materials, and build quality. I have made some decisions that prevent this from becoming something >$100, too, so I've tried my best to balance a higher build quality and price.
All that being said though--I do have some ideas for the future about lowering costs for future drops. I have no problem with the choice not to buy one of my wrist rests; like I said, I totally recommend testing the waters with something cheaper first!
Jul 4, 2015
Elrick
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Jul 5, 2015
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JasonBetaWellsThe price to me is nothing, if you are keeping this item for the REST of YOUR LIFE ; )
Anything else is a poor cheap substitute, unworthy of ever considering.
Jul 5, 2015
JasonBetaWells
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Jul 5, 2015
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nokosleatherThank you for the thoughtful and detailed response. I will keep an eye out for your future drops with a lower cost alternative, should you discover one you'd like to bring to market :)
Jul 5, 2015
crikey
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Jul 7, 2015
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nokosleatherNoko, since you've mentioned the Filco/Ducky wrests, can you tell me how much better your wrests might hold up comparatively. Mine has started peeling up where my wrests rest. When it comes time to replace it, I'd like a wrest that doesn't peel like my Ducky.
Would yours eventually peel up too, or does that have something to do with the Ducky not being a "real" leather wrest? I don't know much about leather, so I'm hoping you can shed some light.
Jul 7, 2015
nokosleather
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Noko Leatherworks
Jul 7, 2015
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crikeyMine will definitely never peel :)
You're right on, actually, it's due to it not being "real leather". If you've ever known anyone who bought a cheap leather couch that started to flake off and turn grey/white, it's the same idea.
Cheap leather goods are made of bonded leather, which is made by taking leather "sawdust" and remnants, grinding them up, mixing them with glue, and then stamping them into a sheet with a grain pattern.
I use the highest grade of full grain leather I can get. It won't peel and you can clean and maintain it just like you would a nice pair of boots, with leather cleaner and conditioner.
The other peeling problem I've heard of with the Ducky is the whole top part peeling up and separating from the bottom. This is because the rest isn't actually stitched together; the stitches are decoration and it's just glued. My wrist rests are completely held together by stitching, and I use as little adhesive as possible to make sure there's no problem with it degrading.
Jul 7, 2015
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