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BrainFlush
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Jun 17, 2017
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I like the packaging. And the fact it's 4oz for under $20 And the mix of ingredients is pretty damn good.
One concern though. I know Lavender is listed last meaning it's the least amount, but personally I avoid all lavender products. And I recommend all men do to. But it's an opinion and yes, its a testosterone thing.
As always. Love seeing new stuff on MD. Thanks O'Douds!
Jun 17, 2017
CompasLifeApparel
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CompasLifeApparel
Jun 17, 2017
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As someone who works closely with the O'Douds team I can assure you that you will not be upset with these products. You will pick up more of the Cedar and Citrus notes with these than any lavander. Totally work checking out and is super well rounded with the scent.
Jun 17, 2017
SunBearDontCare
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Jun 18, 2017
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Your comments about lavender and "a testosterone thing" made me curious (I'm a guy who likes lavender-scented things), and I decided to look into the medical literature to see if there was any truth to the claims floating around on the internet.
The idea of lavender oil increasing estrogen production in men stems from reports of some boys developing gynecomastia ("man boobs") after using hair or skin products containing lavender and/or tea tree oil. While it was determined that the oils in these products were the cause of these boys' conditions, and that a number of plant-derived essential oils can affect hormone levels in young boys, there are a couple of important things to keep in mind before someone decides to trash their fragrance/pomade/beard oil collection. The first glaring issue here is sample size; two reports* seem to be the bases for virtually all of the "lavender will make you grow boobs" articles (that I could find, at least). Each of these reports describes the conditions of three boys, and it would be a stretch to consider six cases to be in any way indicative of the norm. Additionally, all of the cases in question occurred in boys (ages 4-10) who had not yet undergone puberty, and would therefore have testosterone levels much lower than those of post-pubescent males, potentially making them more sensitive to changes in their testosterone/estrogen levels.
There very little, if any, scientific evidence to indicate that exposure to lavender oil would cause adult males to develop breasts. If anyone can find a peer-reviewed, academic journal article that says otherwise, I'd be very interested to read it. This is absolutely not meant to be a personal attack against the OP or people who share his opinions; I have a background in cellular biology, and I happen to be very passionate about scientific literacy and correcting misconceptions about research findings.
*For those interested, the papers can be found here: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa064725#t=abstract https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26353172
Jun 18, 2017
BrainFlush
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Jun 18, 2017
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Thanks for looking stuff up. I'm all for debunking myths. And this one looks to be just that. I still personally avoid lavender.
And yes. I was never posting here for shits and giggles to be a jerk. I sincerely meant my OP based on opinion and factually incorrect studies.
Jun 18, 2017
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