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Anent
167
Mar 15, 2017
Curious: What precisely justifies this cost compared to other less expensive boots?
JoeJoePotato
13
Mar 16, 2017
AnentHere's the answer, and it not only applies to these boots, but to many premium priced goods:
Think of it this way- the first $100 you spend on a pair of boots gives you 85% of utility/satisfaction you could ever get out of a pair of boots, and for most people, that's good enough!
The next $100 you spend (now $200) gives you 10% more, and now you've captured 95% of the potential satisfaction.
The next $100 (now $300) is only going to be spent by a person who demands the highest quality, with little compromise, from a well-known, and trusted brand (such as Oak Street boot makers). This gets you up to 98% of utility/satsifaction you could ever get.
To get to 100% on anything, the price starts going up exponentially, to the point where for the vast majority of people it simply isn't practical and/or they aren't obsessed enough to spend a grand on a pair of leather boots.
Bottom line- if boots aren't that important to you, then there's no answer anyone can give that would justify buying $400 boots, you can find great boots for ~$150 that will serve you well, and be almost as good as these boots. However, for some, that tiny margin of improvement is worth paying potentially hundreds of dollars for- and precisely speaking, it's higher quality materials, better craftsmanship, and a brand known for excellence in product & customer service.
Anent
167
Mar 16, 2017
JoeJoePotatoSo take the classic Doc Martens (a lifetime boot option exists) as a comparative example: what makes the dropped boots worth the extra cost, besides sole preference?
morechitlins
15
Mar 16, 2017
AnentHand made in Maine, USA Horween leather
Those are are main reasons
JoeJoePotato
13
Mar 16, 2017
AnentI'll try ignore subjective aesthetic preferences here
Since Doc Martens has a pretty wide variety, let's assume we're going with a median priced boot of ~$130-150.
- Doc Marten boot will likely be made in china, almost always machine made in large part. Oak Street boots are ALL hand-made in the USA- this craftsmanship does have value to people in and of itself, it may not for you.
- Oak Street materials are simply better sourced, almost all boots made of Horween Chromexcel leather, which is an extremely high quality, expensive material. It's going to look better, age better, and it's going to feel better when you wear them. This isn't to say Doc Martens use low quality material, it's just to say it's objectively not as high of quality, and it's up to you to decide if that's worth an astronomically higher price.
- I said I'd ignore aesthetics, but frankly Oak Street is just a less generic, generally more professional looking boot. It's my opinion, but I it's hard to argue against it- for example, I would wear these Oak street boots to my office with Jeans on Friday, but I wouldn't do this with any pair of Doc Martens I've seen.

Again, for most people, getting that last 5-10% of satisfaction is not worth 2-3x the cost- it really isn't and I get that. For a young(ish) professional like me, with a good job, and no kids, it's not something to sweat over- if I like it more and want it, it's what I'll get, and that's the market this kind of thing is for.
silkybones
4
Mar 17, 2017
JoeJoePotatoThis, rather brilliantly, doesn't answer the question . The question remains: How are they different from, say, a quality pair of $180 boots? Or let's use your response as a starting point for a more factual answer...
The last $100. What exactly is done to the boot that brings the 'potential satisfaction' from 95% to 98%?
edit: to be fair, JoeJoePotato did preface with "ignore subjective aesthetic preferences here". But still.
Anent
167
Mar 17, 2017
silkybonesYes, I think it's a case of 'buy what the other guy doesn't have' as a motivator, which is without judgement.
Take the Arthur model (http://www.drmartens.com/us/p/originals-boots-boanil-brush-arthur) of DrM at an MSRP of $250, which is almost in a 'dress-shoe' version of a boot: THE BOOT IS MADE IN DR. MARTENS' ORIGINAL NORTHAMPTONSHIRE FACTORY BY HAND, INCLUDING HAND-POLISHING. Etc etc.
MikeNola
33
Mar 21, 2017
AnentNo doubt that model you listed is a nice boot and damn nice for the price. I would argue Dr Marten can afford to price a boot like that based on how large they are (they are global) but they also have to price based on their competition; in this case I would say competition for goodyear welted boots in England is pretty fierce. In the US Goodyear Welted boots made in the USA with quality leather all run in the 400+ range (for quality firsts) from companies like Wolverine, Red Wing, Alden, Allen Edmonds, Oak Street, Helm, and a couple others I am blanking on at the moment. You can usually find a lot of these (Alden excluded) for much lower prices on closeout/clearance, on ebay/grailed/used market, or factory seconds. But no one has really dropped their pricing on this type of boot to really start any kind of price war so they all seem to start in the 300-400$ range. Part of that, at least for boots that use Horween, is due to the fact that Horween controls the pricing on all their leathers.
So really that was a long winded way of saying it is a branding thing. Horween carries a price (although not all Horween is created equally) and a name/quality recognition, in much the same way as things are in the automatic Watch market. Brands like Rolex and Omega (while exquisitely made) fetch a far greater price than Seiko or Hamilton which are a far greater value.
Personally speaking I have not gotten my hands on a pair of Oak Streets yet but this drop will change that. I will say this about why I think the increased price on certain boots are well worth it; When I got my first pair of Alden boots after wearing a pair of Dr's for a long time I was stunned by the difference in quality. It wasn't even close in terms of build, comfort, leather, etc... Alden was heads and shoulders (in my opinion) the superior boots. Now whether or not a person feels that difference is worth the 4-500& difference is totally subjective. I am very interested to see where these Oak Streets stack up in my collection and I am assuming they will be somewhere around my Wolverine 1000 Mile Evans in terms of quality but I will give my honest opinion.