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There are great audiophile smartphones now.
Meh. Name one. Show your work (DAC model, op-amp, specs, etc.).
Hey riff raff, I'm messing with md because I have a problem with their ethics. 6i6 pro tools12 414 akg yams Sheckter bass omen manu katche drums cordoba classical Taylor dreadnought fender strat.senn mix 712pr0 senn650 ld mk3 shure57 and the list goes on. Now, how do you get a good mix and what kind of music do you write? Equipment is one thing but talent quite another
Oh, (thought it was from a different post)sorry you meant a phone. I have a sam7 and use an oppo ha2se and I think it handles most files. Some newer phones are really amping up for audiophiles. You should check it out. I like the thought of all in one. Easier.
Ps. Oppos in my post pic.
so that 800.00 phone will jump up to 1000.00 to 1200.00 because they bumped up the hardware for the music player. may be easier, but more expensive. Don't think for one minute they wont't exploit that audiophile upgrade to justify the price increase.
Hi, I looked up 2017 phones for audiophiles. The reviews and specs. are pretty good. No where near the price your suggesting. I just like the idea of an "all in one". Phones are catching up and daps will become less expensive and in time obsolete. (In my opinion.) When I'm in the market for a new phone, that's the way I'm going and that's the way the markets going. Many phone companies have already teamed up with audio companies. My pockets will have more room for money.
Ps. Camera sales have tanked since the smartphone.
It will, but maybe not at first. They will try to get the most for the feature and then the price will go down as everyone will have it soon afterwards. Hopefully not!
The problem with most of the portable players....is that they're essentially phones without the phone. There's not much benefit to buying a stand-alone if you can't replace the battery and it will be obsolete in 2 years.
Yeah, projecting the market is kind if tough. Right now I'm happy with my mobile stuff and the really good stuff at home. I'm sure some of the daps sound great. It's a matter of personal preference and I'll wait untill I need a new phone. Given that, the specs look nice on this dap. Cheerio!
What about the CHORD Electronics Mojo, ultimate DAC/Headphone Amplifier, USB, Coaxial, and Optical paired with an iPhone 6? I know they are $500, but from all of the reviews I've read, this looks like a kickass pairing. BUT the
system now has two units rather than one. So I guess it depends on how you intend on using it. I'm new to the whole audiophile world and just starting to explore. I'm seriously thinking of going the Chord, iPhone 6 (or my iPod Classic 80GB) with a Sennheiser 800. I'd be interested in any audiophiles commenting on this set up as I'm just learning.
The mojo is overrated and very overpriced, but a very good product on par with common desktop setups, although for the price tag you can get better desktop setups. And you do seriously need a portable rig to listen to the hd 800 lol? I mean youre probably not gonna take the hd 800 on a train right? right? (if you do plz take pics and put on reddit, free karma)
Just go with a schiit modi multibit with a aune x7s or schiit asgard 2 and they will probably beat the mojo for the same price.
The head-fi thread is full of hype (they get all triggered when you tell them the mojo is bad)
Instead, read a thread focused on shitting on the mojo instead (jk there's some legit advice there ) http://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/chord-mojo.218/
And from what I read there the schiit modi multibit beats the mojo in all aspects.
" I am, like @Kattefjaes, one of those people that don't think Mojo sounds quite as bad as some people say. At the time I bought it it was the best sounding portable DAC I'd heard. Initially I felt it compared well even next to, say, Bifrost MB. However, the longer I've owned it and the more things I've compared it to the more the shine (and effects of hype) has waned.
For desktop use it's out-performed by Modi MB ... and by a larger margin than I first thought, for less than half the price.
Inside a year I've gone from being an enthusiastic recommender of Mojo to someone that thinks it has its place, but is also aware of its shortfalls ... and those were things I'd managed to miss, or not hear, until they were pointed out by others. It also has a number of ergonomic and operational issues ... including the worst USB input implementation I've come across (I actually think it's faulty, not just weak) and unacceptable (for a phone-targeted product) susceptibility to EMI/RFI."
- torq, sbaf
Scarce: Now that's a great in-depth and insightful reply. Thanks for the leads. Since you are so obviously aware of the multiple possible options in this realm, pray tell, what is your set up? I'm not looking to go portable though. I guess I unintentionally indicated that based on the fact I mentioned using an iPhone 6. Listen - what I'm really seeking is an ultimate sounding system for hi-rez audio files. A client of mine let me listen to his Pono with a Senn HD 800 dual cabled and I was blown away. With so much info out there and so many options, how in the world do I replicate such a sonic experience without breaking the bank?
You have to go to the shop to listen to all the headphones there before purchasing the one that you would like.
The reason you have to go to the shop to listen is because the different people prefer different sound. Some may like the laid back character of the HD 650 while some may prefer the clarity and space that the HD 800 offers.
The HD 800 is a very sibilant sounding headphone with a treble peak that can be unbearable to quite a few people. A headphone focusing on the Soundstage, excellent for listening to well recorded orchestral pieces due to the many instruments playing all at once, the sennheiser HD 800 really gives a great feeling of space and you hear good detail in the massive space that the HD 800 presents the music in. The HD 800 is very source picky and requires a good amp to drive them or they will sound terrible.
The HD 650 has a very laid back character that lacks the massive soundstage and clarity of the HD 800 but offers a thumping bass paired with sweet mids with body, unlike the HD 800 where mids can feel thin and airy. The HD 650 is not source picky but will scale well with amps, a proper amp is required to take full advantage of the 650.
The focal elear is also another highly regarded headphone that is apparently not source picky. I didnt really hear the focal elear properly for a long period of time thus I cannot comment but it is a very pleasant headphone I have had the pleasure of listening to.
The STAX earspeaker lineup is very very very amazing and the entry level srs-3100 system that I have had the pleasure of auditioning is very good and offers better detail than the HD 800, however they offer a unique presentation of the sound that may not be for everyone. The L700 is said to have blown everyone away and well is very expensive ...$6000 for the energizer and headphones. Do note that the sennheiser orpheus HE-1 are regarded as the worlds best sounding headphone with a price tag to justify the performance ($75000) but the stax L700 system can hold its own against the worlds best sounding headphone with some saying that they offer similar levels of enjoyment.
Headphones that you should try : HD 800s, HD 650, HD 600, Audeze LCD 2, AKG K712, focal elear, and the STAX lineup such as the stax L300 and the endgame L700